Unvaccinated Residents and Visitors Urged to Schedule Vaccination Appointments
July 15, 2021 – Following the official statewide reopening on June 15, the Mono County Health Department has recorded a fatality related to COVID-19 complications, as well as an increase in positive COVID-19 cases, and a slowing in the overall vaccination rate. Positive COVID-19 cases are on the uptick locally and throughout the state, leading to concerns about virus spread and the introduction of variants.
Mono County’s current COVID-19 Response website8,134 dashboard shows 1,044 cumulative positive Covid-19 cases (since March 2020) and 5 Deaths (+1) as of today, July 15, 2021. There is a total of 8,134 people vaccinated.
“Our community has been a leader in overall vaccination rate in the state, and with the summer tourism experienced here we need to double-down on our efforts to keep virus spread low,” stated Bryan Wheeler, Director of Public Health. “The positive cases that we’re seeing are largely within the unvaccinated population, and we can assume that the Delta variant is in the community. My concern is that the relaxing of public health protocols combined with the slowing of overall vaccination will lead to the perfect storm of virus spread.”
Mono County residents and visitors are encouraged to visit the California Department of Public Health’s My Turn website at myturn.ca.gov to schedule local COVID-19 vaccination appointments. Mammoth Hospital, Vons, and Rite Aid have all joined in the vaccination effort, and appointments are available via My Turn. In addition to the My Turn website, appointments can be made directly with medical providers and
at Mammoth Hospital.
Individuals who need assistance in scheduling an appointment can call the Mono County Public Health Department at (760) 709-6765
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Choices, choices, choices. Do I want to gamble on coughing my lungs out while drowning in my own goo that takes a while and is not pleasant, or a new shot that Trump, Bush, Carter, Biden and Clinton have taken? My parents gambled on the new small pox and polio vaccinations way back in the 50s, and I’m not dead yet. No way those shots took ten years to approve. Not bad figur’in fer som ‘ol dummie. William, you must be an anti Trumper because he’s the one who pushed this vaccine through and signed off on the suing thing and wasn’t afraid to try it. By the way, the VARES site states under ‘Strengths and Limitations of VAERS Data’, I quote; ‘VAERS data alone cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event.’ Choices, choices, choices….
Well said William, there is a lot of Disinformation out there.
Especially his Disinformation.
To transition from panic porn to actual news, (1) how many people currently are hospitalized in Mono and Inyo because they have Covid? (2) As to the sole “fatality related to COVID-19 complications”, what does that mean? That someone died of something other than Covid but happened to have Covid at the time of death, or that an otherwise perfectly healthy person got Covid and died as a result?
A mono-focus on “case counts” doesn’t tell us much in a phase of the pandemic in which most of those testing positive are young and largely asymptomatic or have at most mild symptoms.
“panic porn”???? haha
Too much time in drama class for vaguelynoble.
I still get weekly Covid updates, in English and Spanish, from Inyo Co. Has more info than I can digest. All I did was fill out some forms when I got my shots. That was months ago.
Just pulled up the Inyo Co. site here on the Wave and looked under ‘testing’, second one down on left, and all I found was a rehash of current CDC guide lines. I definitely preferred the old site’s info page. Also can’t see why anybody would be shocked by the uptick in cases when our main tourist draw is from so. cal. What I do find shocking, my own family included, is just how afraid of the vaccine some people are. Not even political, it’s no secret that Trump & family took it. They really believe that it is some kind of gov./big pharma poison and side effects will kill or maim them for life, and that the odds from Covid are better. They are really are that afraid. Well, can’t fix fear and some people gotta learn the hard way.
Actually most people that dont want the Covid injection are simply more educated about the subject than those who rushed off to get it without doing any investigating for themselves. Most of the people who did get the Covid injection have bought hook line and sinker the propaganda being spewed from the mainstream media, social media and the government as well as Eastern Sierra Wave.
The reasons not to get the Covid Injection are numerous indeed. Here are just some of the reasons.
-To date no MRNA vaccines have been FDA approved for human use.
-The Covid injections only have emergency use authorization
-The messenger RNA used is not of natural origin and was created in a lab via computer simulation.
-The Covid injections do not meet the legal definition of “vaccine”, as they do not provide immunity or prevent transmission to others according to the Covid injections makers own clinical trial studies.
-Toxic ingredients that have been found in the Covid injections such as Graphene Oxide, a recognized toxin to humans.
-Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System for the Covid injections are over 10,000 deaths, 30,000+ hospitalizations, 59,000+ Ended up in urgent care, 82,000+ office visits, 2,000+ anaphylaxis, 2,885 Bells’s Pals, 1,000+ miscarriages, 3,900+ heart attacks, 2,400+ myocarditis/Pericarditis, 9,000+ disabled, 2,500+ Thrombocytopenia/low platelet, 8,800+ life threatening reactions, 5,400+ tinnitus and the list goes on. These are just the reported incidents from people aware of the VAERS database.
– The Covid injections are still in the 4th phase of clinical trials for long term side effects with ends in 2023. Therefore, if you have taken any of the Covid injections you are taking part in a medical experiment.
-Natural immunity (the way we humans made it this far) has been completely thrown out the window.
-No vaccine concocted for a Coronavirus has ever been successful.
-The CDC’s own statistics of probability of survival which is 99.97% or greater for most people makes injecting yourself with an experimental substance which you can not undo simply idiotic.
-The third leading cause of death in the United States and Europe after heart disease and cancer is attributed to pharmaceutical company products.
And the list goes on…
Pease don’t paint those of us who critically think and did our own research about an extremely important topic as simply afraid to get injected. There is simply no good reasons to get these experimental rushed injections, period!
William, Sierra Wave will only point out just one (although there are many misrepresentations) in your comments, and then refer our readers and listeners to a credible resource that examines many of the false claims you listed.
Your comment that “The third leading cause of death in the United States and Europe after heart disease and cancer is attributed to pharmaceutical company products” is false and representative of many of the other falsehoods you presented. A report in 2018 study by John Hopkins said that “Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.” “Medical errors” is not that same as “pharmaceutical company products.” Rather than waste our time going through your laundry list of falsehoods, Sierra Wave will refer our listeners and readers to Snopes fact-checking”: ’18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a COVID Vaccine’ Post Filled With Reckless Falsehoods.”
Those posting these types of falsehoods to the public, representing them as “facts” when they have been repeatedly debunked by credible medical authorities and experts both in this country and world-wide, should be ashamed of themselves. To be blunt, you and others like you are not a credible news or medical sources of information on this topic. The only reason Sierra Wave is posting your comment is so our readers and listeners need to be able to read and assess the nonsense that is being posted on social media.
Charles James, you are a shining example that the saying “with age comes wisdom” is just not true.
Medical errors definition according to the medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com;
“In nursing usage, any failure to implement a planned action as intended or the implementation of the wrong nursing plan”
Tell me now, how many nursing plans do not include the use of pharmaceutical products?
One of the most common types of medical errors is indeed via “medication errors”, either a mis prescription or side effects from a pharmaceutical product.
You know all the class action lawsuits and tv ads from law firms that look for people who suffered xyz drug side effect… yep big pharma has a great track record, they really can do no harm.
Oh and if you do get one of these experimental MRNA or any Covid injection for that matter and you do have an adverse reaction that costs you your life savings and leaves you with permanent health problems take solace in the fact these so called “vaccine” manufacturers are immune to any legal recourse… because when you have faith that your product is safe and effective you absolutely need legal immunity! Hahaha you just can’t make this stuff up.
“The only reason Sierra Wave is posting your comment”, I’ll give you credit I suppose for not censoring an opposing opinion to the obviously nefarious agenda being pushed on us by big corporations and government. Thanks for not censoring my comment this time. Cause censorship of any kind is a cancer to a free society.
However, the fact you even brought up that you decided not to censor me shows just how sensitive you are to a different set of facts not funded by the media, social media companies, and the government. I can turn on any major news outlet or large social media outlet, radio, Sierra Wave etc and get your set of data about these covid injections… very limited surface level data I must say. You should welcome debate and discussion on this topic if you have any journalistic integrity left at all.
There are some rational thoughts and conclusions here, except for some faulty premises and critical missing information. There may be some irony in the conclusions about people who get and those who don’t get the vax, but the big picture is that media-fueled fear seems to be keeping people from getting one of the 3 vaccines that are available.
First, I’d be interested in seeing the data on education levels and vaccination rates. Please, send a link because education levels have been higher among vaccinated people than non since at least Feb.
Yes, I agree there is a lot of propaganda (MSN and right wing media; unfortunately even the Biden admin.)
mRNAs are not brand new, and they were already in the pipeline to address respiratory infections and we just got lucky they were at the near point of deployment. The actual biology behind mRNA-logics is fantastic and portends great advances in efficacy. I’d rather have an mRNA vax based on the chemistry than anything else.
You are correct; there is only EUA of the vaccines and not an regular approval. It CANT get approval yet, and you describe why. The best questions to ask here are, what data would you like to see before you are comfortable with the mRNA vax? Can you say?
This is a very emotional topic, and one should reflect if they can’t actually answer this question because there is a ton of pre-clinical work on this vax platform and now a heck of a lot of data on efficacy and safety (and its way safer than COVID, so if COVID doesn’t worry you the vax shouldn’t either). Sure, only short-term effects can be determined at this point and the good news is there is no more than a microscopic concern for long-term effects, on the other hand, there is much much higher concern that SURVIVORS of COVID, even mild cases, have suffered damage to organs that will haunt them later. COVID is a vascular disease. Like smoking or radiation, it might be years later that the consequences are felt. Again, if you are not afraid of covid then you for sure shouldn’t be afraid of any of the vaccines. And if you don’t want mRNA vax, that’s cool as there are other options. Get J&J, which is also safer than getting COVID for things like heart inflammation. Heart inflammation is pretty common with COVID even compared to J&J.
(Also, my beer was also not of natural origin and was manufactured too… but my beer is not produced to the same level of purity and monitored, so I’m not just getting ethanol, I’m drinking a bunch of congeners which many are pretty toxic but we don’t worry about that cuz its such a small dose normally… although, hang over may be in part related to the congeners’ toxic effects.)
Further, long-term follow-up of the vax is not technically, nor in any sense, an experiment. Indeed, if they were randomizing the general public, some people seeking the vax would get a placebo (or alt Tx), then it would be an experiment. It’s misleading and demonstrates naivety to call it experimental (Yes it is not approved). FDA has a standard approach and normally would not issue wide authorization without good reason and relatively low risk. You ARE not in an experiment. Yep, it is new and under greater scrutiny and monitoring but even AFTER authorization, FDA still monitors too…
Next, CDC’s own stats show the case fatality rate near 1.7% NOT .03% commonly stated on some RWM outlets. This is raw and not age adjusted (etc.). The real rate when there is adequate medical capacity (e.g., oxygen and ICU staff) is probably 1 to 1.5% but if you look at the numbers coming out of India where millions of excess deaths occurred (and younger/healthier ppl hospitalized) it could be on the higher end… I blame the CDC for not getting that stat worked out by this point.
As for natural immunity getting us this far- that hasn’t helped us too much with HIV (please avoid that), polio, small pox, cholea, ebola, bubonic plague. The last killed up to HALF of the people in European populations. “Natural immunity” was not successful, correct? The last five diseased you have not been exposed to because of public health measures, not because of American’s special immunity (you also didn’t get SARS because of public health measures, you probably don’t remember that because public health officials were on it and did good contact tracing and isolation).
“no vaccine concocted for a Coronavirus” has been successful. Same was said about polio and Ebola. Now it’s not true anymore. And now we have a very effective set of vaccines against COVID19. We got lucky, and yes it was good that Trump pushed for the vaccines (Is it true, one of the last things Trump did as president was get vaccinated?). Do you disagree that the three US vaccines provide protections against the effects of COVID?
As for pharmaceuticals: there are many. Many diabetics and people who got bacterial infections are happy there are drugs available.
There simply isn’t any rational reason to stop thinking critically at the point you were at. You make good points except you misunderstand some things and misstate others. Three reasons to get the vax: avoid the bigger risk of long-term “side effects” from COVID19, stop covid from circulating, and slow the rate of covid mutation. Anyone who thinks there is some risk with the vax, is right, but with all of the evidence and knowledge of biology that risk is TINY compared to the risk of COVID19 (for some things, at least 1000 times smaller). What is not rational is fearing the vax but dismissing the risks of covid to people in the community, if not yourself.
Charles James, I realize that In The interest of “free speech” you have to post the rantings of delusional people with cult level thought disorders but it’s too bad. As you are aware, “medication errors” are not the fault of pharmaceutical companies, and tend to happen when a nurse ( or doctor) puts the decimal point in the wrong place or has two John Smiths. Other medical errors sometimes in surgery can occur. Neither has nothing to do with the safety or efficacy of a vaccine. Sorry, I realize that’s obvious to those with any sense at all. Too bad those with ongoing trust issues or delusions or cognitive impairment/distortions are allowed to endanger the rest of the population. Public health measures save lives.
RN73, thank you for your comments The problem is, things are not always so obvious to others. Confirmation bias plays a huge role. Thinking that, because you think a certain way, others must also, just is not true. With the balkanization of news and people gravitating towards news in silos that only support their viewpoint isn’t helpful. There is a whole news and social media ecosystem out there that are nothing more than echo chambers of someone’s beliefs or views…but it is human nature to do so.
You and others might find this academic article interesting whether you are pro- or anti-maskers and/or pro- or anti-vaxxers. It is an interesting take on why people should be skeptical of government and health officials coercion: “Why a 19th-century Russian anarchist is relevant to the mask and vaccine debate.” .
As this article points out, we should “Ask questions…but be reasonable,” which is often lacking in most discussion of issues these days. It is also important to recognize that “Science can also be a threat to freedom” and that we should be “Skeptical consumers of knowledge.” Under our form of government we should respect the rights of free speech. However, we also should remember that respecting someone’s “right” to express their opinion is not the same as having to respect those opinions or even the person. That choice is up to each of us to make. And no, being on one side or the other doesn’t make you a “communist, fascist, stupid or un-American.” What it does do is make us unmistakably and uniquely “American.” We are a cantankerous bunch…and always have been.
Dear Mr James,
This is not a pro vax or anti vax post. Everyone is free to do their own research and make their own decision. It may take a bit more work that just reviewing the nightly news, however.
” (although there are many misrepresentations) in your comments,” is a generalized overstatement.
Why would it be a “waste of your time” to do your job?
Links to real data would be more informative as a “credible source” than the Snopes article that doesn’t reflect many of William’s points.
There are factual statements in William’s post as well as some opinion, however it is not necessarily a “laundry list of falsehoods”.
The Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J are not approved by the FDA.
“The FDA has authorized emergency use of this vaccine as it may help prevent infection with COVID-19. This vaccine has not been approved to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19.”
https://www.drugs.com/mtm/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine.html
From what I’ve read about Covid-19 vaccine development, they describe the mRNA as synthetic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/what-mrna-how-pfizer-moderna-tapped-new-tech-make-coronavirus-n1248054
A quick search found the paper regarding the Graphene Oxide.
https://www.docdroid.net/Ov1M99x/official-interim-report-in-english-university-of-almeria-pdf#page=6
VAERS reporting required by healthcare providers and vaccine manufacturers, if made aware, and voluntary for others.
VAERS Data as of 7/9/21
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19
To address that Covid-19 injections do not meet the legal definition of “vaccine”.
Per the CDC:
“Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.”
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
However, if the FDA states that it is not yet approved to “prevent or treat”, could it be debated that it does not meet the definition, yet?
Per Pfizer :
“Following administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, the following have been reported outside of clinical trials:
-severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, and other hypersensitivity reactions, diarrhea, vomiting, and pain in extremity (arm)
-myocarditis and pericarditis
Additional adverse reactions, some of which may be serious, may become apparent with more widespread use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
• Available data on Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy”
https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2021-07/Delta_Variant_Study_Press_Statement_Final_7.8.21.pdf?IPpR1xZjlwvaUMQ9sRn2FkePcBiRPGqw
“All trial participants will continue to be monitored to assess long-term protection and safety for an additional two years after their second dose.”
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark
Also from Pfizer regarding phases of their clinical trials:
https://www.pfizer.com/science/clinical-trials/guide-to-clinical-trials/phases
There are now more reports that natural immunity is performing well and possibly better than vaccine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
As someone who has dealt with health issues for most of my adult life, I have found that my health is in my own hands. I am responsible to do the research, discuss with one or more trusted health professionals, and decide what is the best course. In doing so, I have learned not to take anything spit out by the “credible sources” as gospel. Researching multiple views and reports is not nonsense.
Your statement is condescending, insulting, and judgmental. Mr. James, you are far from being a real journalist and have turned the Sierra Wave into your own Op-Ed publication. The statement below would have never passed a high school journalism class.
“Those posting these types of falsehoods to the public, representing them as “facts” when they have been repeatedly debunked by credible medical authorities and experts both in this country and world-wide, should be ashamed of themselves. To be blunt, you and others like you are not a credible news or medical sources of information on this topic. The only reason Sierra Wave is posting your comment is so our readers and listeners need to be able to read and assess the nonsense that is being posted on social media.”
To be equally as blunt, you are not a credible news source on this topic either.
Skipper,
It pretty much is reasonable to call it a laundry list:
False or misleading
1. Definition of vaccine
2. The FDA approved mRNA vax (in the sense that they have said its okay to use widely, under a wide authorization statement)
3. Most drugs have been subject to chemical processes (if only distillation and purification) it can be misleading and fear mongering to not explain why that matters (because it probably doesn’t)
4. Toxins are in most foods and beverages we consume and the air we breath, even in Mammoth. Concentration matters.
There have been many adverse events but how many of those would have happened anyways. Its sorta the “with vax” or “because of vax” and when you do the analysis you see this is mostly misleading for serious issues (worse, compare those numbers to people that actually get COVID).
5. Its not an experiment; it is being monitored and as we see when the data shows a possible danger the vax is put on hold… just like all vaccines even the really old ones.
6. There are half a dozen vaccines that are now clearly effective against coronavirus.
7. The survival rate is wrong or really needs to be explained what he’s talking about since he cites CDC as the source. The CFR is above 1.5% (and if you look at excess deaths its also not so good)
Lastly, what is entirely missing is a discussion of how many people end up with long-covid and organ damage that will cause problems.
There is also a very good point here: okay, say we can’t get vaxed, then what approach is being recommended to address COVID (we could be done with this already if everyone was vaxed but that didn’t happen). Or… maybe its not about the vax and maybe its about allegiance to an idea that we must believe COVID as a risk is a hoax.
Hi Kevin,
I appreciate your thoughtful response and welcome the debate. The air around this topic is super charged.
The pressure is mounting daily against people who won’t or can’t get the vaccine. Some of it actually creating even more defiance due to the tone. The division is palpable with people calling for non-vaccinated to be left to die in the streets, should be shipped to the middle of the ocean, etc. These sentiments are detrimental to all of us. Aren’t we supposed to be working to resolve this together? Compassion and understanding could go a long way.
To state that the vaccine is FDA approved without the statement of it being for Emergency Use, does not provide complete informed consent.
There are many toxins as you say. But we can chose to take them or not in some cases or seek out cleaner alternatives in others. I don’t have to drink alcohol and I won’t lose my job if I don’t. Some people may be waiting and seeking a better vaccine or prophylactic.
From the perspective of the vaccinated, I can understand the fear of a new variant and the possibility of even more lockdowns. Reacting from fear reduces our ability to think critically and logically. MSM and others feed the fear with alarming headlines instead of promoting context with actual stats and data.
There are people who have had previous experience with vaccine injury, have compromised immune systems and doctor recommended to not take the vaccine, or had a very bad response to dose 1. Even the CDC recommends not taking the second dose in the case of the latter.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html
The idea that we could vaccinate everybody is not realistic. To say that “(we could be done with this already if everyone was vaxed but that didn’t happen)”, proposes that everybody on the planet had access to the vaccine. It also presupposes that someone is at fault and has the potential to create more division. It is also misleading, because it was never stated that these vaccines eradicated the virus. They reduce the chances of severe disease.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious
I also have the concerns over long haulers. I have a chronic illness that has affected every part of my life for the past two decades including at times the ability to support myself. I understand there are potential consequences of contracting COVID. I agree that it would be nice to see data on the percentage of cases including demographics and previous conditions that actually become long term issues.
Also, is there more that can be done to treat at first symptoms or at case confirmation to reduce the chances of the illness progressing and not waiting until things get so bad one has to go to the hospital? Why isn’t there more discussion regarding this?
For some, there may be other treatments that look promising for prophylaxis? There are some that have already been the topic of controversy and censorship. Like the vaccines, they too may have long term risks of which we are unaware. But, if some were more comfortable taking something with a longer history, why can’t we look at this as a multi-pronged approach to squash transmission and infection?
It isn’t an “if this/than that” in regard to vaccine hesitancy and the belief that COVID or it’s risks is a hoax. This is a complex topic and I don’t believe it can be simplified to that degree. As with any health intervention, each person has to do a cost/benefit. For example, someone with a compromised system that isolates 99% of the time might not need to risk a reactivation of their ongoing illness such as Guillain-Barre by taking the vax. But, someone with the same illness and has lots of exposure might find that the vaccine is worth the risk of the vaccine as opposed to contracting COVID in addition to their illness. The cost/benefit analysis becomes even more complex when the pressure to vaccinate or lose your job or access to essential services factors in.
Skipper, thanks for your very thoughtful comments. You make some very good points. We need to look for common ground on issues rather than pretend that everything is either “far-right” or “far-left.” Name-calling and politicizing the issue tends to make people defensive and even angry, with the result that they “dig in” or “double-down” on their beliefs, which might be the last thing they need. Thanks again for taking the time to make thoughtful comments. Nice job.
Skipper (and William), Here are few more thoughts and questions to see what you think.
I think we have to be VERY careful here. Feeling bad from the vax is not the same as having an allergic reaction. FAR FROM IT. If you feel bad from the vaccine, then you can be comfortable that you got a potent dose of the vac and your immune system is reacting (good). Most people have an allergic reaction during the first 30 minutes (they observe you for 15 minutes if you are concerned stay for 30 minutes). Feeling bad from the vaccine is good news, otherwise.
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I didn’t see a response from William. I would have felt much better about many of my fellow American’s if he could have been convincing in his support for what looks like wild claims to people who work in the biosciences. He’s willing to make incredible statements that others might take as being credible.
As for the negative ideas about unvaccinated that you mention, people should realize that people continue to get vaccinated everyday in the USA. People are still making that choice and this is before things have gotten bad.
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To be clear, I wrote that none of the 3 different vaccines (in the USA) have approval. But again, its not possible to get that status and instead, we have seen the greatest of scrutiny by the FDA, and the FDA has allowed for it to be issued to the general public (with some age limits and recommendations). It is the strongest allowance that can be obtained. Again, all persons should be asking, what EXACT data would I want to see? For the vast majority of people in the medical field across the globe, that data is available now. In the health care systems where I work almost all the licensed medical staff got vaccinated on their first opportunity. It was some of the schedulers and janitors (people without science/medical training) that held out.
The point about toxins is this: There are toxins in just about everything you buy at the grocery store or raise on your own property. To anyone that works health science, it meaningless to say a toxin is present (we already know that). What matters is what it is and what its’ concentration. What’s not rational, or it is just disingenuous, is to pick out any tiny component of one of the vaccines (there are 2 others) while ignoring other more clear cut toxins such as lead. Most people reading this probably do nothing to evaluate and avoid microdoses of lead in food, water, and, yes, air. Most people don’t even bother to “chose”, and in my experience its extremely hard to find out. Most companies will not tell you why they have prop 65 warning on their products, in my experience, and most people that have a concern vax ingredients what the data would indicate is a microscopic concern (and infinitesimal compared to having a SARS-COV-2 virus ravaging your tissues– even if you “survive”) have chosen to ignore those other toxins. It is not consistent.
William should reconcile if readers are to consider him rational.
I think this is more important:
On your point, I think many people have had their trust undermined (by outside forces and, to some extent the medical community itself, and the CDC which has not been very open and transparent). I think William would admit that he is in a position of fear, and as you mention, decision-making is poor in such situations.
As for a physician suggesting to someone that they not get the vax, the contraindication is a prior allergic reaction, which is rare. It did happen when I was staffing a super vaccination site, but really uncommon. As for waiting for a better vaccine, there is no reason to think that will happen in the next year (outside of the current 3). We have very effective vaccines now. Not perfect but that was not expected. We got better than expected.
There are certainly going to be other very rare situations where people might delay getting the vax, but these are also the same people most of the time that benefit from the rest of the community using their personal responsibility and American bravery (if that’s needed to get over fear) and protect those people (and to give my colleagues in the hospital a longer break- they are just recovering from the strain of last year).
Having two people close to me immunocompromised, its important for you to explain why an MD/DO might have said not to get a vax. For instance, my niece has no detectable B-cells. Her treating doc did not want to “waste” two doses on her. She already lived a pretty tough life before covid (except during flu season, which was lockdown and masking time even pre-2019).
As for having a strong response to dose #1. Some people have a strong response. If they didn’t like that at least, they didn’t have to have a week or weeks of even worse symptoms with actual COVID. Some people have mild acute COVID just like some have little anything from the vaccine. Feeling bad from the vaccine is not a bad sign (and its limited in duration).
The vaccine is the prophylactic. Other pharmaceuticals (with toxins, including the ACTIVE ingredients) have been explored. What remains as treatment includes antiviral meds +/- steroids. There are other things that are in the pipeline to address the cytokine storm, but all of those require you to get really sick first and suffer damage already. The drugs themself are extremely rough on the kidneys, as is COVID. Kidney function is critical for lots of things in your body. When you are being treated with these drugs, if the hospital is not overrun, you will be monitored constantly by a nephrologist (kidney doc). I’ve not heard of any Pts who refused the COVID vaccine refuse the antiviral+steroid treatment, which at some level is not consistent if they were worried about the tiny potential risk of the vaccine.
And ya, if the population was 85-90% vaxed (or highly immune) the COVID issue would be minor, at least for a while.
The 3 vaccines are low risk. For most people, only fear-based (almost entirely) on misinformation is the explanation for not getting the vax. Yes, some rare people can’t get it, and most of those people in my clinic are saddened by how many people let fear stop them from getting the vax. The vax is much lower risk for most people than actual COVID is (it certainly doesn’t look like an elevated risk of GBS over actual covid from the J&J vax, either as COVID itself also appears to trigger GBS.*). It undermines one’s credibility when a commenter ignores that.
*PPl who might be at risk for GBS benefit greatly from the rest of the community getting the vaccine.
So then, will you wear a mask to help protect others ? Oh, and please cite your sources to support your statements. thank you.
Inyo County shows only the cumulative positive tests on its website. The Mono health officials are more open about announcing their current status, I have not seen a similar press release from Inyo’s health officials.
Art, the tests are faulty. The PCR test, the one these self professed experts claim as the gold standard is not meant to be used as a diagnostic tool. The creator of the PCR test Kary Mullis, who won a Nobel prize in chemistry for this accomplishment said so himself. He also said, “you can find just about anything in anyone” in reference to the PCR test. It is well documented that PCR testing can easily manipulate outcomes simply by running a higher threshold cycle. The antigen tests are also highly questionable with so called experts and test manufacturer’s claiming anywhere 25-50% accuracy. Flip a coin and you got Covid. Case numbers do not equate infection.
The testing scheme is well known by anyone who spent time doing some research. This is all old information.
Rest in peace Kary Mullis (December 24th 1944 – August 7th 2019). Dr. Fauci’s biggest critic.
William, Agreed that it would be wise to get your information that you use to create opinions from varied sources and then apply critical thinking when things don’t appear to reconcile. PCR tests are widely used as a diagnostic tools in modern medicine for infectious disease. You basically said that x-rays are faulty and not meant to be a diagnostic tool. X-rays are good for what they do but are as good as contrast enhanced MRI for some other things and then even then its just a tool for measurement that is not always highly specific or sensitive, but its pretty dang good. Just like PCR. Remember when there were people, even with credentials, that said HIV doesn’t cause AIDS (oh, crap yes that’s right, PCR is widely used in the identification and treatment of HIV infections and is so invaluable we now see it as central to the pretty. (I am hyper aware of the statements from Mullis as we surfed together- he did bench science and I do clinical & prevention research). They way you [and others before you, obviously] present this should make you reflect on everything else you think about with confidence and try to figure out who and why this gross misunderstanding of very important tool was fanned. Ironically, the criticism that you can’t measure (actual) viral load or identify actual virons with PCR actually kinda strengths counter-arguments… as for ct, that affects sensitivity and specificity and good clinicians realize that, but doesn’t PCR works pretty darn well? What would you have suggested instead?
What is Inyo County’s current Covid 19 status? Has our positivity rate also increased?
Art,
According to the Los Angeles Times Tracking Site, as of today, Inyo County has 1,446 confirmed cases with a 7-day average: 0.7; 14-day change: -100%; 38 deaths (Cumulative since March 2020); and 49.9% of residents are at least partially vaccinated.
Covid testing in inyo county is easy, simple and free.
Vaccinations are easy, simple and free.
Wearing a mask in indoor or crowded situations is easy for most people.
C’mon people let’s end this virus.
Agree completely.
The irony of those who are opposed the vaccines is the vast majority of them have been vaccinated for MANY other illnesses. And they’ve vaccinated their children for MANY illnesses as well. Yet a handful of grandstanding politicians and a couple of talking heads from a particular cable news network have somehow convinced people that this vaccine is bad.
Charles, back a year or so ago there were many politicians, including Kamala Harris- who publicly stated that she wouldn’t get the vaccine. Remember? In fact most all of the democratic politicians were skeptical, and wouldn’t trust the vaccine created under Trump… LOL, you cant make this stuff up. Could they themselves have any role in the reluctance of the population?
Actually, what she did say during the Vice-Presidential Debate was, “If Dr. Fauci, the doctors, tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it,” Harris said. “But if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I’m not going to take it.” The idea that you might forgo a life-saving treatment because of who is or isn’t in political power is silly. The fact is, a lot of people that supported Trump have taken the vaccinations, and the vaccines were developed on his watch…by doctors, researchers, and scientists. That many who have not have been vaccinated against Covid-19 may be Trump supporters is besides the point. There are many people that are not taking it because of other reasons besides purely political ones.
Some people distrust government, science, or anything that comes from the mouths of politicians or the mainstream news media. Many are conspiracy-prone. Others, already with perilous health issues are worried about vaccines’ effects. Some people are naturally skeptical and even cynical about any new and different. Resistance to taking lifesaving vaccines has always been a problem historically. There was even limited resistance from a few over the polio vaccine in the 1950s, but parents at that time were so terrified by the disease, resistance was easily and overwhelmingly overcome. An article by NPR titled “Can’t Help Falling In Love With A Vaccine: How Polio Campaign Beat Vaccine Hesitancy,” chronicled its history. There is a whole history of resistance to vaccinations that go back to the 1700s that are interesting to read about. The best thing to do is to not universally condemn everyone with who you disagree with on the vaccine. It’s complicated because people are complicated.
Well said.
Yep. COVID testing in Inyo is easy, simple and free…and according to Inyo’s COVID email newsletter it was just reduced to one day a week! Just as cases are raising across the nation again. Sigh.
The easing of restrictions doesn’t mean the virus has gone away. It just means they now have room for the unvaccinated anti-maskers in the ICU. At least for now.
Yes though no more deaths. Inyo doesn’t post anymore….so we mushrooms have to get Info from the LA times.
Actually, Glass goddess, Inyo County still posts Covid-19 numbers on their website; you just have to go looking for it. It’s listed under “Testing.”
We shouldn’t have to “go looking for it”. The virus didn’t magically disappear because June 15 came around. I tried “looking for it” on Inyo’s website last month, gave up and also began using the L.A. Times, The changes to Inyo’s website almost seem geared to soothe people into complacency. That magical get-back-to-normal date was just about 2 weeks after Mule Days. And since then we’ve had High School Rodeo finals, Little League All Stars, 4th of July…. And now some parents saying their kids seem to have come down with “colds”!????
Huh.
Many of us did see it coming…. Where are those roadblocks again?