Public remembrance

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Andrew Bourne's memorial will now be held at Canyon Lodge on Saturday.

As the community of Mammoth Lakes tries to deal with the tragic events surrounding the life and death of Dr. Andrew Bourne over the last month, friends and family work to accommodate a growing number who will publicly remember Bourne on Saturday.  Dr. Michael Karch emailed word of yet another change of location for this event.  He said:

“We will be at Canyon Lodge due to its capacity of 1000.

Rusty Gregory and Mammoth Mountain have graciously donated Canyon Lodge and will provide ALL FOOD.  Please note: DO NOT BRING FOOD.

NO VOLUNTEERS NEEDED FOR SETUP. STAFF DONATED BY MMSA.

A cash bar will be available. Here is the sequence of events:

1. “Andy’s Last Ski Run”. Meet on top of Gondola at 3:30
2.  Doors open at Canyon Lodge Upstairs auditorium at 5pm
3. Music by Eastern Sierra Chamber Orchestra at 5:15
4. Eulogy and speakers to follow beginning at 5:30
5. Slide show to follow
6. Food and Beverage to follow
7. Event close at 8:30″

Meanwhile, Mammoth school officials re-scheduled a special board meeting for February 7th for official acceptance of Bourne’s resignation from the school board on January 13th.  The school board is expected to call for a provisional appointment to fill the vacancy for the remainder of the elected term of Andrew Bourne. That meeting will take place at noon on Tuesday, February 7th.

The school board resignation and termination of his surgical contract at Mammoth Hospital came on the heels of Bourne’s arrest January 4th by Santa Barbara Police on allegations of unlawful contact with a child with the intent to commit a sex crime.

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Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago

Harry…Does that also mean the vast majority that did not attend the “memorial”does not support the mountains decision ?

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago

Bishop Local….Hate to say it here,but got to comment again on this topic….If you check on most of the posts,most of the people share the same sentiment as the “outsider looking in”SBskier.It’s not as if all the people up here disagree with what he had to say.Most,to a certain degree,ask… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Deja

“Most of the posts share the same opinion” does not mean that most of us living in Mammoth share that same opinion. All those who attended support the mountains decision to support the Bourne family.

SBskier
SBskier
10 years ago

What a bizarre reaction by the Mammoth community. A prominent local is arrested for having sex with a minor and you throw a town party in his memory? Maybe Mammoth has become a little too close knit and everyone is afraid to speak out for fear of being ostracized in… Read more »

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago
Reply to  SBskier

SBskier, get your facts straight. Dr. Bourne was not arrested for having sex with a minor. Regardless of what the charges were (and do keep in mind that they are charges and not convictions), the contributions that he made to our communities and to mankind are huge. I don’t expect… Read more »

SBskier
SBskier
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

There is no “insider” or “outsider” for this issue. A 40ish man was allegedly pursuing a minor girl for sex and it doesn’t matter if he was a janitor or a surgeon. The town’s reaction is as creepy as the particulars of this crime. Mammoth has some serious social problems… Read more »

InyoAlias
InyoAlias
10 years ago
Reply to  SBskier

No guess what dude(or dudette), its not weird. We are a mostly rural area where we have a lot of personal contact. If you don’t know someone,someone you know does(is that called degrees of separation?) We don’t live in the Sh..tty City like you, where anonymity breeds contempt and you… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  InyoAlias

“We only want the cash you bring and make fun of you behind your back”…From what I hear,the town of Mammoth Lakes isn’t doing a very good job with that cash they are getting.

???
???
10 years ago
Reply to  SBskier

Nonsense! This “party” was a beautiful tribute for his sons to remember him by. Yes, there were many, many people there….and many of us were there to show support and love to the family! I think YOU are pretty damn weird for not focusing on the lovely community we have… Read more »

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago

Shocked, You totally missed my point. Obviously, you have not run a business with employee overhead because if you had, you would know that the expense of payroll, payroll taxes, workers comp insurance just to name a few of the employer liabilities is huge. Doubt very seriously that the one… Read more »

???
???
10 years ago

The mountain hosts elevation week EVERY year since I can remember. I haven’t heard of any public out cry of season pass holders/patrons who do not support homosexuality. The mountain is a forum for many uses…punk bands, wet t-shirt contests (in the past) and the list goes on and on… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago

Good point BishopLocal, so here’s an idea: In this low-snow year MMSA should have taken the money it spent on this stupid memorial for an accused sexual predator and used it instead to keep a few more seasonal workers employed instead of sending out more layoff notices. The LA Times… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

400 people in LA that do not know the facts and are totaly insensative. Who are they to pass judgement? The Mountain and the community are supporting the Bourne family.

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago

If we took all of the time and energy that we have put into this post and collectively applied it to something really important like coming up with solutions for lowering the unemployment rate or finding solutions to help local causes, just think of the impact that would have in… Read more »

enoughalready
enoughalready
10 years ago

Ken – nice to see you have not posted in the last couple days. Good. Give it a break. Go get some fresh air. Enjoy what you moved here for. Life goes on. This is a terrible story. The poor girl, the families and friends of all those involved. Its… Read more »

Bonzai
Bonzai
10 years ago

John Wayne Gacy was a community activist, volunteering with his local Jaycees, entertaing children as a clown in community hospitals and worked with his local Moose chapter. I don’t remember anyone throwing him a “community-sponsored public memorial”. Read Sunday’s (Feb 5, 2012) edition of the Los Angeles Times. “Bourne admitted… Read more »

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  Bonzai

I promised myself that I wouldn’t make any more comments, but the analogy you just made Bonzai, is ridiculous. Gacy murdered and dismembered people. What has that got to do with this case? Where is the similiarity? You don’t remember anyone throwing Gacy a party? Why was he your Buddy?… Read more »

Wilfred S.
Wilfred S.
10 years ago

The story of this memorial service is a front-page story in the LA Times today, and I was surprised to find this little tidbit of information that has somehow been missing from the local coverage. Here’s the paragraph I’m referring to: –In court motions before Bourne’s death, Santa Barbara County… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Just for the record – In a conversation with Sierra Wave, Dr. Bourne’s attorney stated that his client denied having any sexual contact with the alleged victim. The attorney, Ron Bamieh, further said that the case against Bourne was terminated with his death. Perhaps it is time to move on… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Amen!!!!!

Wilfred S.
Wilfred S.
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

“Just for the record – In a conversation with Sierra Wave, Dr. Bourne’s attorney stated…” Is Bourne’s attorney really going to say anything to implicate his client? My point was that it appears many media outlets have stopped short of their investigative responsibility. And as far as refraining from further… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Wilfred S…Check out the stories on the other web=sites about this “memorial”…and see what commenters have to say about it….

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Wilfred……..This is gonna be the last I got to comment on the Dr. Bourne case……and ,hopefully,the story just goes away…….But the L.A.Times mentioned it LONG AGO there was much more to the charges against Dr.Bourne than reported here in Mono And Inyo County….but with all the hero-worship going on up… Read more »

Nicole
Nicole
10 years ago

So, what’s the response from Rusty Gregory and MMSA going to be if the evidence shows that he’s guilty of these accusations? I’m just saying, this conversation is pointless since so far, Bourne is technically innocent. But will MMSA issue a public statement of regret if it turns out that… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago

I’m amazed by the number of judges posting here, sad.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago

Gistine is starting a news letter to send to all the people he/she despises. All those who want to be included in the daily hate mail merely has to slightly disagree with her/him here on this blog. There will be prizes offered…

2rude
2rude
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Mr. Warner, I think you are missing the point. I don’t think anyone is begrudging Dr. Bourne’s family, friends, and collegues from holding a memorial to him; and it is right that he be honored for his service to the community and to his country. But what I think has… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  2rude

You just don’t get it, this memorial is not all about Andrew Bourne, and you can not speak for the whole community like you are trying to say here. Yes people are hurt by it. Some people who believe whatever they believe in this matter and don’t feel it should… Read more »

2rude
2rude
10 years ago
Reply to  Big AL

My point is that it would have been more appropriate, and certainly less divisive, for the memorial to have been at a neutral site, rather than at a the Mountain, a place to which the community as a whole has such a strong connection; and perhaps it should have been… Read more »

???
???
10 years ago
Reply to  2rude

ummmmm…..it wasn’t a drunkfest! The purchase was optional! I saw more people drinking the water, coffee and hot tea that was available for free. Just sayin!

2rude
2rude
10 years ago
Reply to  Big AL

And I’m not saying I speak for the community; I’m merely pointing out that, regardless of one’s view of Dr. Bourne and his guilt/innocence, Rusty Gregory was very insensitive to the community as a whole when he decided to host the memorial at MMSA, as is evidenced by the number… Read more »

Gistine
Gistine
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Firstly, I am a female. Secondly, I value everyone’s opinion. Just not yours.

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  Gistine

Then you shouldn’t use a word like “everyone”. That implies an absolute. I’m sure from your posts you don’t value anyone’s opinion but your own and maybe a few of your smarmy friends, Clucking around at the kaffeeklatch, kissing up to each other as you wait to pounce on other’s… Read more »

Thinking
Thinking
10 years ago

When his fortitude, his strength, his convictions about his life and who he was were about to be tested more than any moment in his life, he completely and utterly failed. When his own flesh and blood, the little humans he created and his true love that bore them needed… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Thinking

The man has been dead for a week. And still people like you are excoriating him. That is sickness that cannot be treated by any doctor.

Let the man be.

AEA
AEA
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  AEA

But not every visitor to this blog is one, until you came along

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago

The Sun rises in the East and sets in the West — EVERY DAY!!!

laetitia
laetitia
10 years ago

How parents could let a child go 100 times to Mammoth without worried about her? How can they let a child recieve 1000 emails without having a control parental on her PC? Parents have responsability toward their child . Suddenly after 2 years they just open their eyes!!! The Americain… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  laetitia

Watch your back. Gistine is gonna getcha…

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago

Maybe? Amen Awesome post! Thank you for your words, in all of the hating and self righteousness, it was appearing we are losing our heart as a community, as a society in large. If the allegations are true against him, yes there is no excuse, none. We will know the… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Big AL

Good words. I just wish this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach would go away.

nothappy
nothappy
10 years ago

Hey Howard,
Is there a pineapple connection out there that we can start talking about instead of Dr. Bourne???

Wilfred S.
Wilfred S.
10 years ago

We live in a society that worships the elite. A wealthy, sociable, fit, handsome surgeon will ultimately rise above almost any moral indiscretions, while those unlucky enough to be born poor, unattractive, introverted, and otherwise unregarded will have to deal with the residual contempt society has tucked away. Rusty Gregory… Read more »

2rude
2rude
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Well said Wilfred S! And while it is a bit off topic, I can’t help but see a similarity between the Mammoth elite’s approach to this and their reaction to the MLLA debacle -we are from Mammoth; we are cool; we are bitchin; we are infallible; none of us are… Read more »

May
May
10 years ago
Reply to  2rude

Thank you Wilfred and 2 rude my sentiments exactly.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Rusty, if you see a flickering yellow glow in your window tonight — turn out the lights and pretend you aren’t home….

Gistine
Gistine
10 years ago

Hello all. Please do not engage with Mr. Warner. You’d find a more relevant, intelligent debate from a bag of hammers.

This whole “celebration of life” makes me sick. Shame on MMSA. Disgusting.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Gistine

I’m having a sale on Flaming Torch brand charcoal lighter. My cousin has a pitchfork sharpening service — runs it from the trunk of his car…

Gistine
Gistine
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

I rest my case.

PS: the chronic use of ellipses does not make your writing more deft.

As you were, exhalting your hero and Rusty Gregory, who has put quite a blight upon MMSA and Dave McCoy’s legacy. Nicely done.

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago

Dear Maybe?, Well said. I applaud your words and your sensibility. Thank you.

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

Amen Bishop local

Bonzai
Bonzai
10 years ago

Clearly, Mammoth and Rusty should distance themselves from this. Donating the lodge and employees construes an “endorsement”. I have no problem with the venue, but would prefer to see MMSA charge customary fees. Rusty’s wanting to support the family is a personal decision. Just don’t do it on “our” dime.… Read more »

Maybe?
Maybe?
10 years ago

Wow. There are certainly a lot of choices on the table these days. I suppose we could stand with Andy’s family and friends this Saturday evening at Canyon and show them what it truly means to be a neighbor, a friend in this little community of ours? Or maybe we… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Maybe?

Well, your thoughts are way too rational for the torch and pitchfork mob that is ready to rumble when anyone shouts,”…witch…”.

They have their own way of remembering in some dank hollow of their minds complete with virtual burning crosses and boiling oil. It makes them feel complete and holy.

Wilfred S.
Wilfred S.
10 years ago
Reply to  Maybe?

Being a surgeon, you’re bound to save some lives. That doesn’t make you a hero, or any better than the hospital janitor. Stop placing this man on a pedestal — surgery was his job, for which he was well compensated. That’s all. American’s really need to stop revering physicians as… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Wilfred S.

Really? Wait until you need one…

May
May
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Hello Ken, They still should not be put on pedestals… come on. There are people in this world who are not doctors who have done a lot of great and honorable things. I am frustrated we will never truly know what happened. All I know is children continue to be… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  May

Well said. But not pedestals — just fairness. There is no fairness in the pronouncements of many here. Like yourself. I never implied that a 13-16 year old was not a child. You attribute that to me and it is not even close to the truth. I was attempting to… Read more »

MeadowGal
MeadowGal
10 years ago
Reply to  Maybe?

@Maybe? What one has done or accomplished in life is erased when sexually explicit emails are exchanged with a 14, 15, or 16 year child. Period. Andy may have been a wonderful surgeon, friend, community member, etc, but it is becoming obvious he had a hidden side to his life.

jj
jj
10 years ago

Ken- just so you know it appears someone else is using JJ also. I will change my name to avoid this sad subject.

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago

So this is how it is: An accused sexual predator who kills himself rather than face the charges agianst him is not just tolerated by our community, he’s honored with a memorial beyond that held for true heroes who have died before? Really?

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

ACCUSED shocked, ACCUSED. Look it up in the dictionary, it does not mean GUILTY!

Gistine
Gistine
10 years ago
Reply to  Whatsinaname

Typically, people who are innocent generally do not commit suicide. Would you not fight tooth and nail for your chance to be heard if you were innocent? Would you not fiight with everything your had for your family? How could you not right the alleged wrong the justice system did… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  Gistine

“Typically, people who are innocent generally do not commit suicide.”

What is your source? Please post.

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago

Scarred for life by hundreds of emails and 2 old guys trying (emphasis on trying) to get in your pants. My Mom used to say “There’s nothing new under the sun”, but that was before email. In fact this story is as old as time. I hope that this girl… Read more »

Shari
Shari
10 years ago

Where else would they hold the service? The reason it got moved to Canyon Lodge is because that’s the only place in town — besides maybe the Main Lodge — that will accommodate the number of people that are planning to attend this event. Memorial services are for the living,… Read more »

survivor
survivor
10 years ago
Reply to  Shari

And ignore the FACT he was charged with for sexual activities with a minor. How hypocritical! Sorry if he was any other profession than a Doctor all of Mammoth would persecute him. We all know this. Guaranteed Joe Walker who has lived in Mammoth ALL his life if he had… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  survivor

8 emails — the Santa Barbara D.A. charged Dr. Bourne with 8 counts of inappropriate communication with a minor — 8 emails out of a thousand over a two year period that didn’t pass the approval of the D.A. Dr. Bourne was not even charged with committing any “sexual activities”.… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Ken….If what you say is true….8 E-mails with sexually inappropriate material sent to a 13 year old out of 1,000…….in a lot of people’s minds…including mine..and the D.A’s..that’s 8 too many.Didn’t the story also allege she made many trips to Mammoth Lakes to visit these guys?Wonder who was arranging….and paying… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Deja

Those are all good questions with no answers. That’s why I get so upset when people assume they know what happened. All we know (we being all the ghoulish spectators that we’ve seem to become) is that the D.A. made the charges well documented in the news. We don’t know… Read more »

Joe Biden
Joe Biden
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

What else is a Money Hungry Defense Attorny like him supposed to say? Your guitly case over Oh and I am pro bono. LOL..

Big Al
Big Al
10 years ago
Reply to  Shari

Yes-amen Shari

???
???
10 years ago
Reply to  Shari

Well said 🙂

AEA
AEA
10 years ago

I was a patient of Dr. Bourne. He was caring, professional and supportive as a doctor, exactly what he should have been. BUT, HE WAS AN ADULT AND THE GIRL IS A MINOR AND THAT SAYS INAPPROPRIATE LOUDLY. Whether or not Dr. Bourne had any intention to have sex, commit… Read more »

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  AEA

I don’t believe you know what prompted this suicide unless you are a mind-reader.

AEA
AEA
10 years ago
Reply to  Whatsinaname

Whatever

STEVEN
STEVEN
10 years ago

I’m not going to that! I dont celebrate unless I know he did not do it. If the Mom found e Mails between him and a child, and there was enough evidence there for him to be arrested, then something happened! Why all of a sudden the big celebration? Celebrate… Read more »

???
???
10 years ago
Reply to  STEVEN

Nobody was forced to attend.

I celebrate that there are members of our community who are bold enough to stand up and support the family! What about their recovery?

Tourbillon
Tourbillon
10 years ago

Maybe you guys are right. It’s just pointless to join in your tossing of stones at glass houses, because if you’re right, the windows are already shattered, and if you’re wrong, I’d rather you be wrong without my company. Good luck in your judgment and may you always take as… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Tourbillon

I for one take no pleasure in any of this. My big concern is the black mark being made on our community and the ski area by this memorial hosted by MMSA. As a longtime pass holder and local, I’ve gone to a few memorial celebrations on the hill, most… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Oh and thanks to BK and Sierra Wave for providing a forum for this discussion.

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Don’t go, nobody’s twisting your arm. Being a pass-holder doesn’t make you responsible for any management actions, do you own more stock Than Rusty?

Justin Case
Justin Case
10 years ago
Reply to  Tourbillon

Tourbillon: What the heck are you talking about? Throwing stones at glass houses? There is no pitchforks, no mob, just straight up facts and concern about the obvious lack of acknowledgment of those facts. If I join in the celebration then I am ingoring the fact that he may have… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  Justin Case

I do not think anyone is celebrating what he has been accused of.

survivor
survivor
10 years ago
Reply to  Tourbillon

There is NO PRIDE OR PLEASURE in this at ALL! He is/was accused of sexual crimes with a 14 year old girl. I think most people who are making the negative comments feel that in this situation a PUBLIC memorial is not appropriate. He was successful man, with a family… Read more »

JJ
JJ
10 years ago

Maybe all the folks defending Dr. Bourne need to watch an episode of “To Catch a Predator” on Dateline NBC. The people arrested are supposedly good people, with good jobs, such as teachers, lawyers, and yes DOCTORS! The D.A. is not in the business of running around arresting anyone and… Read more »

Justin Case
Justin Case
10 years ago
Reply to  JJ

Exactly!!!

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  JJ

I didn’t see the “suicide pact email” could you please post a link to that? I’d like to read it.

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Mr. Warner: So far it would appear that the only people who have seen first hand the email where Dr. Bourne discussed mutual suicide with his victim would be the investigators and the DA, Dr. Bourne, the girl, and possibly her parents. We can assume it exists as reported in… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

But JJ said, “…and the judge would have thrown the case out if the evidence was not sufficient during the bail hearing. Oh…how how you forgot about the suicide pact email that was released and the 5k and survival kit in his car. …” Since everybody who contributes to this… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

“…there goes the integrity of this blog..”

Umm, no Mr. Warner, the facts, as outlined by SB DA Mary Barron, remain the same, regardless of any errors made by commenter’s to this blog post.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  JJ

Right! We should get all our preconceived ideas from the TV. Much simpler to just Lego our thoughts and words together from scraps of verbiage we vaguely remember from last nights commercial TV. God speaks to each one of us for 42 minutes each hour. The other 22 minutes used… Read more »

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago

I am noticing a pattern here. Is it my imagination or are most of the highly rated comments, flinging accusations or making negative judgements while the poorly rated comments which are hidden are positive (as positive as one can be given the circumstances) and supportive.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

This has happened on 3 comments that are what you would typify as positive. I have
emailed our webmaster to remove the feature of hiding comments according to reader
support or not.
Benett Kessler

Article 19 Supporter
Article 19 Supporter
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

It has been obvious to me for some time, that opinions were easily hid by a person’ using their I phone,I pad, lap top, P.C. etc. using alias e-mails and names to spin the subject matter from the original debate. Just saying!

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

Our webmaster has changed that feature so no one can cause a comment to be hidden once it is posted.
BK

Big Al
Big Al
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

I agree Bishop local and thank you Bennett – and yes, there is some abuse by people who will add votes one way it the other.

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

I think the reason for the “positive and supportive”comments being voted down is because many comments are bordering on the ridiculous….one states that just maybe these two grown men were “lured” into their predicament by the 13 year old girl….another says,on this post or another, Dr.Bourn’s suicide proves that he… Read more »

Dingo
Dingo
10 years ago

What a bummer for everyone.

Rob
Rob
10 years ago

We are all judged by the company we keep. If you keep the company of a 13 year old girl and you’re 40 years old. You’re judged accordingly. Rusty is also judged by the company he keeps. Rusty’s buddy Arnold Schwarzenegger is an unfaithful liar and cheat. Rusty’s credibility is… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob

According to news sources the “alleged victim” is 14, 15 and 16 years old. You must be talking about yet another imaginary victim.

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

No, according to the SB DA, the victim was 14 when she was first allegedly contacted inappropriately by Dr. Bourne and Joe Walker. The contacts reportedly continued for nearly two years, making the victim 16 today. As for her being “imaginary,” a SB judge reviewed the evidence, the emails, and… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Just a point of clarification. No one was bound over for trial as of yet.
That happens in a preliminary hearing which is now scheduled for February 10.
I believe the judge’s review of evidence happened in the bail review hearing.
BK

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

In California you are pretty much bound over at each step, from initial arraignment through bond hearings (if any) and after the preliminary trial. If the evidence were weak Dr. Bourne could have been granted an OR release, instead the judge set bail at $750,000 and imposed both SCRAM and… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Rob thinks the “alleged victim” is 13. She is apparently now 16. And you don’t know that the “alleged victim” was contacted “inappropriately” by both Dr. Bourne and Joe Walker when she was 14. I’d say some degree of imagination is involved with those pronouncements. If this started 2 years… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

It would appear that the victim is not devastated at all as the SB DA, Mary Barron, stated in open court that she was concerned the girl might flee with Walker or Bourne, but that’s irrelevant, it’s not uncommon in any way for victims to become entangled emotionally with their… Read more »

Rob
Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

13,14,15,16,17 years old. What’s the difference?

It appears he had funds to provide a good defense.. so why kill yourself if your innocent?

I’d like to see the emails that got him arrested

Bee
Bee
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

@Ken, there are people here that know the young girl. its not made up. the ages stated by the press are fact.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Bee

Why didn’t the people who know the young woman stop this from happening?

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago

To all of you reminding us that we should presume Bourne “innocent until proved guilty,” fine, that is indeed the law. However, the fact remains that Rusty and MMSA are hosting a memorial for a man accused of sex crimes, who decided to end his life rather than face the… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Why stop with condemning MMSA? Shouldn’t you also condemn the staff and administration at Mammoth Hospital. And the entire Mono County school board? And anyone who is grateful for the medical care Dr. Bourne gave them? Your flaming torches and pitchforks have not be used broadly enough. Tar and feather… Read more »

Wonderer
Wonderer
10 years ago

Why is the community not celebrating Joseph Walker’s life and supporting his family and friends?

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Wonderer

Celebrations of life are for those who have passed on.
BK

Wonderer
Wonderer
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

So…Walker, charged with the same crime Bourne was, stays alive and remains in shameful regard by the community — he is shunned until he may be judged innocent in a court of law. But if he puts himself out of his misery, the community rallies to throw a party for… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Wonderer

Wonderer…..Maybe it’s just me,and a few others…..but if I were being charged with this type of crime,and I were an innocent man,if I had family that were standing by me,or for that matter,even if they were questioning my guilt or innocence themselves,I would not give a damn what the public… Read more »

Shari
Shari
10 years ago

Being accused is not the same as being guilty. We don’t yet know what Dr Bourne did or or didn’t do. We don’t know what evidence the DA has or doesn’t have. I think all of that will come out in good time, and then some of us can say… Read more »

May
May
10 years ago
Reply to  Shari

If Dr. Bourne had been Joe Janitor at MMSA for 30 years, who had worked hard all his life, cleaned and never made a fuss, was kind to people he still would not be honored if he had charges like this brought against him. NO WAY never and I do… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago
Reply to  May

It may have missed your attention that neither Dr. Bourne or Walker have even been to trial yet. Being charged does not mean one has done what one is charged with.

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Ken…I think your the one that maybe missed something here…..You are saying ” neither Dr.Bourne or Walker have even been to trial yet”…Dr.Bourne ain’t going to trial…

RedDaisy
RedDaisy
10 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Deja

Isn’t the price of his life enough for you…what more do you want from the poor man?

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
10 years ago

None of you even know how old the alleged victim is and yet are able to be judge and jury and executioner. This “crime” has been ongoing for two year during which the “14 year old female victim” apparently didn’t age or tell her parents about traveling to Mammoth 100… Read more »

Concerned
Concerned
10 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

How can a listing of resources (I won’t call them facts since the word is a bit loaded these days) get a 4:1 thumbs down ratio? Speaks volumes for the worthiness of the court of public opinion – apparently these items are all inadmissable as evidence.

InTheKnow
InTheKnow
10 years ago

Why can’t all of you stop judging? Who gives you that right? Why can’t you just accept that some people love and support Andy no matter what he did. It is humanly possible to hold many emotions at once (love and forgiveness for Andy, intense sympathy for the girl (and… Read more »

Bishop Local
Bishop Local
10 years ago

Dear Shocked and Ex Local, If I know anything, I know teenage girls and in today’s society, they know plenty! I was one myself and knew enough to become involved with a High School teacher (at the age of 16) for most of my time as a student at the… Read more »

survivor
survivor
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

He was a 46 year old adult! She was a 14 year old girl not 16. Please do not try to insinuate you are an adult at 14 no matter what your experiences are and/or how fast kids grow up. By the way your teacher knew better and you might… Read more »

ex local
ex local
10 years ago
Reply to  Bishop Local

He had no choice but to get involved with a 14 year old? Or he had no choice but to kill himself?He did have a choice and he took it. No, I will not walk in his shoes. We are all guilty of something we are not proud of but… Read more »

G.W.W.
G.W.W.
10 years ago

May be a cowardly act, but can anyone truly feel the pain and anguish that he must have been feeling. One sad thing is what this whole thing exposes about where our society is headed. We teach sex-ed and hand out condoms in our schools. Sex and promiscuity are rampant… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  G.W.W.

Yes

WTF
WTF
10 years ago

Does anyone else find the actions of MMSA morally contradictory? Yes, Andy was brilliant, gregarious, skilled, helpful, professional, and obviously well liked. However, he made some very bad mistakes. Unforgivable mistakes. And now MMSA is donating site, staff, and food for upwards of 1000 people at a cost of what… Read more »

Bemused
Bemused
10 years ago
Reply to  WTF

They will have a cash bar. And since most of us locals are inclined to throw a few back, this should more than take the edge off the cost factor for MMSA.

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  WTF

Innocent until proven guilty. It is shameful that you and the other 73 people who liked your post. Who are you to pass judgement?

John P. Gross
John P. Gross
10 years ago

Such turmoil and loss. Regardless of the legal or moral issues at hand, regardless of the man and his profession. The community must be there for his immediate family. It will be hard enough for the kids especially as they grow up to recall this entire ordeal. I think we… Read more »

Harry
Harry
10 years ago
Reply to  John P. Gross

Well said.

Ex Local
Ex Local
10 years ago

I am also very confused and upset. I was a victim of abuse when I lived in Mammoth at the age of 15. At the age of 15 you know nothin and then are taken advantage of. It is very disturbing Mammoth is paying tribute to a man accused of… Read more »

Home girl
Home girl
10 years ago
Reply to  Ex Local

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

Bee
Bee
10 years ago
Reply to  Ex Local

thank you @ ex-local. what is going on in this town?! i am also shocked MMSA is hosting this event. The doc faced multiple felony counts, Rusty&friends have you forgotten? Why is the mountain funding this? not to mention MMSA is laying off employees and cutting hours and more to… Read more »

Shocked
Shocked
10 years ago

I am shocked and disappointed that Rusty Gregory and the mountain would get involved in hosting a memorial for a guy who took his own life after being charged with a sex crime. Imagine if the victim were your own daughter! I’ve lost a lot of respect for Rusty over… Read more »

more shocked
more shocked
10 years ago
Reply to  Shocked

Rusty has conitnued to amaze us through his actions for more than 30 years now. Not surprising at all.

Justin Case
Justin Case
10 years ago

I agree with local Here are the facts as I understand them. Fact- he sent many, posibly 1000 or more questioned emails to a child Reported- These emails contained questionable behaviors Reported- Emails stated that Andy and the girl would run away and commit suicide as a way to avoid… Read more »

Local
Local
10 years ago

I am confused as to this whole situation as are most. On one hand, we have a gifted, talented surgeon and family man that is gone. On the other, we have charges from the law. What is one to believe? Should we celebrate this person, or should we be concerned… Read more »

longtimesierralocal
longtimesierralocal
10 years ago

Why would you post the last few paragraphs when we are talking about remembering him ???

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

All of the information is true.
BK

more shocked
more shocked
10 years ago

My question is why would you leave them out. This was also a part of his life.

May
May
10 years ago

So what are we suppose to do just ignore it forget about it? I guess that is what MMSA is doing.

Whatsinaname
Whatsinaname
10 years ago
Reply to  May

MAY, What are you supposed to do? Continue to be flustered forever about something that really has nothing to do with you? Would you allow something like this to go on with your child/children? YES? NO? This situation has something to do with parental inattention at best, and neglect at… Read more »