Plastic bags, meeting times and health

plasticbagThe Bishop City Council will give it another go on a plastic bag ban when they meet tonight.

Senate Bill 405 would prohibit grocery stores, large retailers, convenience stores and food marts from giving customers single-use plastic bags. The bill would also require stores to have reusable bags available for customers to buy.

The Council delivered a tie vote on this issue at the last meeting, but Councilman Keith Glidewell was not there. Mayor Jim Ellis and Councilman Dave Stottlemyre voted against support of the plastic bag ban. Councilwomen Laura Smith and Pat Gardner voted for it. The Mayor suggested they bring the issue back with a full Council.

And, if you have a preferred time for the Bishop City Council to meet, tonight’s meeting offers a public hearing on an ordinance to change the time of regular meetings. The Council may make a decision to change meeting times from 7pm to 1pm and Study Sessions from 4pm to 10am on the second and fourth Mondays of each month.

Officials say the earlier meetings would save $12,000 in staff overtime annually. Council members also felt the earlier times would give citizens the chance to attend daytime meetings since they believe many are “unable to attend meetings in the evening.” This may be a reference to Bishop’s large retired community since working people would not likely be able to attend daytime meetings.

On what’s not likely to raise controversy, the City Council was expected to consider approval of a resolution to establish the City of Bishop as a “Healthy Eating Active Living City.” The agenda item says in the past five years the City has taken steps to provide employees with healthy programs and choices including an employee wellness program.

City Staff has also been an active member of Team Inyo, which is a group of health practitioners, school administrators and community leaders who focus on public health and promotion of healthy choices. The agenda says this resolution is “concrete affirmation that the City of Bishop recognizes the public health threats from obesity and will continue to be a leader in combating the negative effects of poor health choices.”

Other agenda items – a consulting agreement with Mammoth Lakes Housing, and the possible hiring of reserve police officers.

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Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago

My best reusable shopping bags are my backpack that I use at the corner store, and cardboard boxes for major shopping.
Both are superior to the flimsy plastic bags we are using that don’t hold much.

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
8 years ago

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is a collection of marine debris in the North Pacific Ocean. Marine debris is litter that ends up in oceans, seas, and other large bodies of water. The Great Pacific Garbage Patch, also known as the Eastern Pacific Garbage Patch and the Pacific Trash Vortex,… Read more »

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago
Reply to  Ken Warner

Thanks Ken…
BARF!

reuse
reuse
8 years ago

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2013/02/13/san-francisco-plastic-bag-ban-deaths/

the study that Mr Monroe might be using for his conclusion was discredited
it is not a “proven health disaster”

sugar magnolia
sugar magnolia
8 years ago

I re-use the plastic bags when I clean the litter box and I line our bathroom trash cans with them too… that makes them NOT single use bags…in that case could I continue to get them from the store?

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
8 years ago
Reply to  sugar magnolia

Exactly. I guess I will henceforth have to buy plastic bags to line the bathroom trash can? Oh that makes so much sense. And how about how handy they are for picking up doggie doo? Buy sandwich bags or the special purpose dog poop bags? Where is the litter reduction… Read more »

Joe
Joe
8 years ago

No DT, You won’t have to henceforth buy plastic bags because you claim to live outside Inyo County which means this City of BISHOP ordinance does not apply to you. Keep your trash down there. Thanks!

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago
Reply to  Joe

The City Council is only considering a resolution in support of the Senate Bill that would ban plastic bags. They put it off again last night since Senators are making some changes in the bill.
BK

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
8 years ago
Reply to  Joe

The state legislature is debating a statewide ban on “single use” (ha) plastic bags. I have already stopped shopping in LA proper due to their bag ban. They can kiss my grits. But statewide is just too much.

quack
quack
8 years ago

Life was completely impossible before plastic bags were created. Nothing of merit occurred before that time, and anything that was accomplished before plastic bags is interesting only as a nostalgic and ludicrous aspiration towards what life could be, once plastic bags were invented and humans could achieve their full potential… Read more »

CarbonFootPrint
CarbonFootPrint
8 years ago

Welcome to the regulation nation. Where instead of focusing on the scofflaws we punish everyone for the misdeeds of a few.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago

Yes. JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is a case in point. He is the overseer of repeated fraud and his board just gave him a $9.5 million raise after the company paid $20 billion in fines for misdeeds. Jail time? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/jamie-dimon_b_4668410.html
BKessler

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
8 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

If you are going to commit a crime — make it a big one….

CarbonFootPrint
CarbonFootPrint
8 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

I agree Benett. Punish the litterbugs as well as the greedy crooks. .

enoughalready
enoughalready
8 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

As Bob Dylan once said ” Steal a little and they throw in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king”. Big banks may be too big to fail but the crooked CEOs and overseers are not that big. Tar & feathers and then jail. Another Dylan quote. “To… Read more »

MJA
MJA
8 years ago

I hope all of Mono Country bans them one day soon too. =

Trouble
Trouble
8 years ago

Good job City Council. Theirs 20 plus people with no water for their wells and your stuck on the trash bag issue. Theirs over a hundred houses that have lost all their streams and ponds and your scratching yourself saying paper or plastic.

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

I love it Trouble… “Scratching yourself saying paper or plastic” We have a water emergency. We have used all the surplus, dried up lakes, the aquifer, etc, all for lawns, trees, and shrubbery in the desert city of LA. There is a tipping point at which there will not be… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
8 years ago

Bags from hemp paper could be part of solution.

Trouble
Trouble
8 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

Great suggestion Pedro, think our local council people have the guts to even suggest that idea?

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago

I am sick of spewing my opinion on the internet. I wish I could stop. Here goes…one more time…… BLA, BLA, BLA… We have this same no bag deal at a town I frequent. It was real hard to get used to at first. Now it’s no big deal. It’s… Read more »

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
8 years ago

I disagree Mongo. The reason single use bags became the practice was; public health safety. San Francisco has already found that mandating re-usable bags does not control the cleanliness of those bags. One scenario: a person buys raw meat from a butcher counter, the blood leaks through the butcher paper… Read more »

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

I thought the reason for the bag ordinance was to reduce waste and landfill strain. I never thought about the meat issue because we have plastic bags at the meat counter in my town where reusable bags are mandated. I think the ordinance is a tiny baby step in the… Read more »

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

Excellent response. All good points. Biodegradable bags that work would be real step to the better. If we can send people to live in space, why can’t we develop a biodegradable shopping bag.

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

The potential of an outright ban on single use plastic bags is, to me, dismaying. I understand the problems of them contributing to litter and to the plastic contamination of the central Pacific. For me, commuting on a motorcycle all year unless the weather is truly miserable, having to carry… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/plastic-problems-how-do-plastic-bags-affect-our-environment-2583446.html – one of many websites. I doubt animals and marine life strangled by plastic bags have much sympathy for your pitiful angst.
BK

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
8 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

My plastic bags all end up either in the landfill with trash or doggie doo in them, or recycled. They don’t end up stuck to barbed wire fences or polluting the Pacific. I have seen the degree of plastic pollution first hand, both in the Pacific but even worse in… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago

Not sure what you mean.
BK

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
8 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

“Not sure what you mean.” I reckon the authors of this legislation don’t either. That is the problem. How much additional nonsense, inconveninece and disruption do honest people have to put up with because a minority of slobs have no consideration for their neighbors? How low will the lowest common… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago

Aren’t you a bit harsh on people for not wanting to boost the petroleum business with production of plastic bags and for not wanting to harm to wildlife? BK

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

Russ, “the blood leaks through the butcher paper” Your store should provide small plastic bags for meat at the butcher counter. I hope people see and use them to keep from contaminating the checkout counter. I didn’t know about it till a customer educated me. The stores need to educate… Read more »

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
8 years ago

Thanx Mongo, but that is only part of the issue. The basic problem is introducing unnecessary contamination. The meat story was just one example. I’ll try another one: In a buffet restaurant, if you get a “clean ” plate each time you go back to the buffet, then you are… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

Life is dirty.
BK

quack
quack
8 years ago
Reply to  Russ Monroe

Be sure to wipe down your keyboard with antibacterial soap between each keystroke. Germs. They’re everywhere, and they’re gonna gitcha.

Charles O. Jones
Charles O. Jones
8 years ago

I’ve had a similar experience to Mongo’s. A town I frequent also has a bag ordinance. At first everyone was up and arms and many complained loudly. Now most are used to it and it’s no big deal. Bottom line – it’s not about bags, people don’t like the thought… Read more »