SB1148 changes

capitolThe controversial California Senate Bill 1148 grinds through the legislature this week. Former Mono County Senator Dave Cogdill first reported that the bill would cut funds for state hatcheries and the trout planting program. Since then, he has worked to defeat the bill and now to make changes in it through talks with SB 1148 sponsor, Cal Trout.

Cogdill said his meeting last week with Cal Trout, their lobbyists and private hatchery representatives “went well.” Cogdill said, “We are still working through the fine points of our proposed amendments but reached considerable consensus on language that would strengthen AB 7, and improve wild and heritage trout programs.”

Cogdill had worked for several years to get AB 7 approved. That bill assures funding for hatcheries and for wild trout programs. All sides admit that the bill has never fully been implemented.

Cogdill said the author of SB 1148 has now removed the portions of the bill relating to lawsuits that “caused the business community heartburn and as a result,” he said, “got the bill out of the Assembly Appropriations committee.” Cogdill said that movement of the bill will make it harder to defeat.

Cogdill and others have managed to get these changes:

The language calling for the creation of an Independent Science Panel to oversee all trout programs has been removed.

The language changing the priority of the Hatchery and Inland Fisheries Fund to Heritage and Wild Trout programs has been removed.

The requirement to genetically mark hatchery produced fish has been removed.

Cogdill has other proposed amendments that are under consideration. They are these items:

Maintain Fish and Game’s current practice of periodically planting brood stock.

State that one of the intentions of the bill is the “Continued maintenance and enhancement of California’s historic hatchery system”.

Remove existing language that states “funding for Heritage and Wild Trout waters is a priority for the hatchery and fisheries fund.

Allow for the current $2,000,000 annual allotment from the fisheries fund for Heritage and Wild Trout be adjusted annually to coincide with license fee increases.

Cogdill is providing regular updates for the Eastern Sierra.

 

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First on the block to curb corruption
First on the block to curb corruption
9 years ago

Of course “no one has shown any connections or politicians getting rich off fishing.” They know accepting monies, favors, influence, etc. is legal under our existing corrupt system. But as the going gets toughter, the corrupt will become even more corrupt. Solution: Be the first on the block (town, county,… Read more »

Holding elected officials responsible
Holding elected officials responsible
9 years ago

No elected official will intentionally mislead or offend the people. All statements made by an elected official must, at all times, be truthful. No elected official will falsely represent issues to the people. This includes making promises that the elected official knows cannot be kept, or making promises that seem… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

Not sure you can legislate self-honesty.
BK

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

What’s the penalty for violation?
BK

Holding elected officials responsible
Holding elected officials responsible
9 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Currently there are no penalties for violation. (And don’t think for a minute that the elected officials don’t know this). And this is the biggest problem we taxpayers must face as corruption is running rampant in all levels of government. But as a start, have an attorney draft a agreement… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago

Dr. Facts, you can call me Dr. trouble, or Big Dr. …. or call me ray .. or youse can call me ray jay .. but you don’t have to call me AL or Big if you don’t like .. hehe.

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago

Our licencse fee pay for the game wardens Mr Wilderbeast. Call them if you can back up your claims. Nonprofit means little anymore. Many of our nonprofit leaders make and spend millions on themselves. CalTrout is not there to improve fishing. Catch and release, wealthy fly fishermen are the only… Read more »

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

Trouble said, “CalTrout is not there to improve fishing. Catch and release, wealthy fly fishermen are the only ones that will appreciate the work they really do.” And many thousands of people in this State would argue that this, precisely, does improve fishing! And they spend a lot of money… Read more »

wilderbeast
wilderbeast
9 years ago

Show me the money! No one has shown any connections or politicians getting rich off of fishing. Just a bunch of whiny finger pointing at ghosts. Will this bill stop the Bishop locals from poaching from the Wild Trout Section of the Owens using bait every night and filling ice… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  wilderbeast

Show me the fish! … in the ice chests … and maybe freezers .. there has to be a ton of them out there by now .. chests full of fish every night.

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago

Bill-Codgill sure seems to have been fighting for them for a long time. Every thing he seems to do will certainly benefit Cal-Trout if he prevails. I enjoy the great fishing our hatcheries provide us up here for over a hundred years and don’t want it taken away .

Aquaculture and taxes
Aquaculture and taxes
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

What 3 people?
I believe the person in the aquaculture industry can answer that for you.

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago

one and the same- I assure you that I have not used any other names except for my real name which is not Big Al. If you don’t agree with what I say about Cal-Trout say so. Somethings ex-senator Cogdill says don’t appear to disclose the fact that he has… Read more »

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

To Trouble… LOL… The relationship between the Codgill and Cal Trout is anything but rainbows, roses, and unicorns. There’s no conspiracy.

They have been political allies at times, when it may have benefitted Codgill. But political unions are more like “frienenemies” than BFF’s.

A corruption-less society
A corruption-less society
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

To Bill … LOL … next you’ll try to tell us politicians have no ties to business.
Publish your address and I’ll send you a map to help you find your way home.

Bill
Bill
9 years ago

I never said that, “politicians have no ties to business”. History is rich with examples… of course they do! Politicians respond to their constituents. But somehow a discussion on SB1148 and related issues have morphed into a debate about education and education administrators and now political corruption??!!?! There are several… Read more »

A correct focus
A correct focus
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

The times-they-are-a-changin, Bill. What used to work before, no longer works today. A quick study of the masses of people in attendance at the many art festivals, musical concerts, beer, wine and tequila tasting, food tasting, more art, more music, etc. and the amount of $$$ pouring into the restaurant,… Read more »

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill- I never used the word conspiracy. Since you seem to know so much about Codgill and Cal-Trout, can you tell me why a ex-republican senator is working so hard with a very liberal enviormental operation?

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

Trouble- I was going to respond to this very point after your comments below (to clarify) but frankly, I’ve grown tired of all BS rhetoric and just want to wait and see if the SB1148 goes anywhere. To answer your question… They are not working well together! I’ll use the… Read more »

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill- I appreciate your answer and admit I have likely been a little hard on Codgill. I still hope Cal-Trout goes belly up.

Constituents in the service sector
Constituents in the service sector
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Look at it this way, Bill, The service sector of any tourist destination is made up of hundreds of people in the restaurant, lodging, entertainment, grocery, gas etc. businesses. Hundreds are dependent on this. The number of people involved in the fish industry are only 3. I believe a government… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

Please explain what you mean by only 3 involved in the fish industry.
Benett

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

Again, explain only 3 people.
BK

Fish and Socialism
Fish and Socialism
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill,
Certainly you’re not suggesting we taxpayers bail out the fish industry (that only 3 people are profiting from) ?
Isn’t that socialism?

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

What 3 people?

BK

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Good luck with that Benett

esfotoguy
esfotoguy
9 years ago

then you go get the permits,insurance,place of operation ect. good luck

Ken Warner
Ken Warner
9 years ago

A bill more important than SB1148. Remember what happened when Enron got into the deregulated electricity market in the late ’90’s. Remember how your electric bill quadrupled and has never been as cheap as it was before deregulation? Same, same for the deregulated bandwidth providers. http://www.wired.com/business/2012/08/california-faces-an-information-state-of-emergency/ Fundamentally, the carriers claim… Read more »

June Lake may benefit
June Lake may benefit
9 years ago

And speaking of elected officials – According to our newspapers, three Mono County supervisors Hansen, Hunt and Johnston, are ferociously lobbying for the county to pick up the tab (taxpayer’s dollars) for the Mammoth Dog Sled Adventures business. This would include property, dwelling place for the owner, and who knows… Read more »

Dog Sledding business in June
Dog Sledding business in June
9 years ago

As June Lake is in such dire straits, it would make total sense to acquire The Dog Sled Aventures business set it up in June Lake, and heavily promote it. But not with MY tax dollars.

wilderbeast
wilderbeast
9 years ago

“Why should our tax dollars go to fisheries? There are those getting rich from million dollar subsidies to the fisherie. While money for education disappears.?” Talk (gossip) is cheap. Put your money where your mouth is….who is getting rich and where? Show me the proof….otherwise it’s just another blowhard sounding… Read more »

Code of ethics for elected officials
Code of ethics for elected officials
9 years ago
Reply to  wilderbeast

By the way Wilderbeast is ranting about this, it sounds like a person who is in the fishing industry. Could this be the kind of person who tells the world they have divested their interest in something, gets elected, and then focuses on how that industry can profit? That’s in-your-face-corruption… Read more »

Poli-sci
Poli-sci
9 years ago

Beware when elected officials own or have their fingers in fisheries.

Corruption and Fish
Corruption and Fish
9 years ago

Why should our tax dollars go to fisheries?
There are those getting rich from million dollar subsidies to the fisherie.
While money for education disappears.

johnjcampnfish
johnjcampnfish
9 years ago

How about tax dollars to educate me on how to catch bigger fish?

Bill
Bill
9 years ago

“Why should our tax dollars go to fisheries?” Are you serious, or just naive?? Nearly all the CA DFG budget comes from the sale of sport licenses to anglers and hunters!!! It’s like a “play to pay” tax on the interest groups that participate. It’s infuriating that few people understand… Read more »

Smells fishy
Smells fishy
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

…and the owners of those fisheries make a bundle.

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Smells fishy

The only people that “own fisheries” are the citizens of CA!!!! There’s a phenomenal amount of public accessible water in CA.

Smells Fishy, and corruption and fish, please expand on your opinions please, because it’s hard to understand your point with short sound bites.

Code of ethics for elected officials
Code of ethics for elected officials
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Until is it illegal for an elected official to accept on thin dime from any source, ie., previous ownership, silent partership, etc., or use their influence for subsidies, etc., the system you have in place will be a corrupt one. Suggested code of ethics for elected officials to curtail corruption:… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill, I think what these people are pointing at .. is hatcheries such as Alpers hatchery, there are some that produce fish for the state such as Alpers.

I believe they profit from the business .. I am not talking against them, just pointing out a possible scenarios.

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

It’s getting a little confusing now w/ all the comments and reply’s to one another… Hopefully Benett will follow this story as SB 1148 – when there are more details to address – and we can all sort it out. I do believe there are major misunderstandings and almost “black… Read more »

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago

Corruption- I think your wrong- if Caltrout gets their way here it likely would lead to subsidies. But right now from what understand most all of their money comes from California’s fisherman licenses. Not taxes. Caltrout is trying to take over the hatcheries by making them private.

divest my (expletive deleted)
divest my (expletive deleted)
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

I hereby divest all my holdings to so-and-so fish companyso can focus on serving the public instead. And the best way to serve the public is to focus on the fish industry. Conflict of interest? Nah. I’m merely serving the public. Note: Until a code of ethics is put into… Read more »

Sounds fishy to me
Sounds fishy to me
9 years ago

A person that claims to no longer have any interest in a particular industry, then as an elected official announces he’ll do whatever it takes to assist that industry is clearly ________ _________ (fill in the blanks)

Bill
Bill
9 years ago

Divest said… “I hereby divest all my holdings to so-and-so fish companyso can focus on serving the public instead. And the best way to serve the public is to focus on the fish industry. Conflict of interest? Nah. I’m merely serving the public.” Why do you think he was elected… Read more »

a statement of ethics
a statement of ethics
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

It’s a question of ethics, Bill. And as a citizen, voter,and taxpayer, it is our duty to hold politicians’ feet to the fire when things sound fishy. To disprove any allegation, simply have the politician to agree to making their tax returns public each year. The politician who is on… Read more »

a statement of ethics
a statement of ethics
9 years ago

Nonsense!
Anybody who is refusing an anti-corruption statement to be put into place for our elected officials is clearly part of the corruption problem.
(see 3 thumbs down above)

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

I’m sorry but please stop spreading fallacies. You should learn more about AB 7 and SB1148 before commenting – along with DFG budgets and Cal Trout org. This whole ordeal has been rife with misrepresentation from the beginning. And Benett, usually I admire and appreciate your journalism along Eastside, but… Read more »

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

http://caltrout.org/2012/08/caltrout-supported-sb-1148-legislation-finalized-heres-what-it-really-does/ Here, for the antagonists in the crowd… please read this before throwing any more stones and pitchforks. Benett, in the name of fair and balanced journalism, please post this as an article. Keep up the good work, I know it’s tough sometimes to cover both sides but I feel… Read more »

Code of ethics for elected officials
Code of ethics for elected officials
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Whenever the possibility of halting corruption from an elected official materializes, it is the duty of the citizens to do whatever they can to halt the runaway corruption that exists today.

Why won't they agree to this?
Why won't they agree to this?
9 years ago

Why can’t the elected officials agree to sign a statement agreeing to pay huge fines if they are caught “sending business” to their pals?

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Interesting article Bill

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill-I have taken the time to read your attachment . That is clearly Cal-Trouts side of the story. It seems to me like Cal-Trout will say , do, or change any thing to take control of a large portion of our fishing waters and license fees. I question their motives… Read more »

One in the same
One in the same
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

Hmmm. How interesting. “Big Al” (who is he kidding with the “Mr. Big” nonsense?) posts at 1:20. At 1:29 “Trouble” posts at 1:29 both are in agreement with each other on the topic. Easy to call oneself anything they like on blogs like this. Who does this guy think he’s… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

LOL Dr. Facts .. you can think what you like and try to feed people what you like .. buddy .. I look forward to see what it next ..

A perception
A perception
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Bill, when it gets down to it, Joe Citizen doesn’t give a rat’s (you know what), if someone’s fishery falls on hard times or not. What disgusts them is the in-your-face corruption that occurs and the belief that their elected official would never dream of deceiving them. And that’s why… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

I did post Caltrout’s entire press release as soon as they sent it, including quotes from it in a follow up story after initial comments by Cogdill. My efforts to call Caltrout on the first story were fruitless – the rep here was on vacation and headquarters in San Francisco… Read more »

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Apologies for not seeing it Benett, but I still believe most of the coverage regarding SB1148 has been slanted by Cogdill’s take on the whole thing.

Please continue to follow the story…

Bill
Bill
9 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

To A Perception… You said, “Joe Citizen doesn’t give a rat’s (you know what), if someone’s fishery falls on hard times or not.” I disagree, especially here in the Eastern Sierra where fishing is still a a really big deal. “I know because What disgusts them is the in-your-face corruption… Read more »

Where is the anti-corruption law?
Where is the anti-corruption law?
9 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Everybody loves fish.
Everybody loves the fisherman.
But when an elected official (or his silent partners, etc.) personally capitalizes from his actions- that is clearly corruption.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago

What corruption?
Benett Kessler

Bill
Bill
9 years ago

Corruption? Tim was elected to Supervisor, by the people, for the people… which obviously contained many who value someone who values the fishing experience. He has only ONE vote. A far greater number of people; tackle shops, accommodation providers, restaurants, retail shops, fishing guides, marinas, etc etc will benefit with… Read more »

Socialism in business
Socialism in business
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

Seems to me when a government sticks their nose into private enterprise – that is what might be called “socialism.”
And isn’t that one of the dirty words used today that get people elected?

Mark
Mark
9 years ago

When government sticks its nose into private business it leads to 30 million dollar lawsuits. Very few people in Mono County have learned this even after being educated the hard way.

Mark
Mark
9 years ago

We haven’t had good value for our education dollar for many years. Education doesn’t need more money, education administrators need to give us more value for our dollar before they deserve another dime.

It's all about me
It's all about me
9 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Betcha Mark has no children and concerns for their future.

Mark
Mark
9 years ago

I have to question who really thinks “it’s all about me”. A person has to be pretty selfish to bring a life into an over populated World where they’ll spend the rest of their life worrying about their future. Before an individual or business gives anyone any additional money, one… Read more »

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
9 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So that’s: Mark has no first hand experience running an educational system, but is fully qualified to make blanket generalized statements like: “We haven’t had good value for our education dollar for many years.” No facts involved. From here it sounds like Mark is the one: “who really thinks “it’s… Read more »

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
9 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And where have you taught Mark?

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Mark- their are a lot of great teachers up here. I disagree with every bit of your statement. You put that 30 million dollars into our teachers hands up here instead of another court house and this comunity would thrive again soon. I have kids in school here and most… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

Amen Trouble

Mark
Mark
9 years ago
Reply to  Trouble

You people are stuck in a rut. I never used the word teachers. I said education administrators.

So you people seriously think administrators are giving us the best value for our education dollar? Well then you should give them a raise!

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  Mark

O.K. Mark, I’ll admit that I jumped to the teachers defense here. But when a guy throws a education comment into a fish hachery story , he sort deserves negitive responses.

salblaster
salblaster
9 years ago

about former mono county senator dave cogdill. what is his current position in the state legislature, anyone know. or can anyone show up to the state capital and start bossing people around and get a bill killed in the appropriations committee. sounds real good for the local hatcheries but i’m… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
9 years ago
Reply to  salblaster

Mr. Cogdill is now the Assessor in Stanislaus County. He grew up in Mono County and says he feels strong about the hatcheries. He negotiated for about three years to get AB 7. He released information about SB 1148 with the belief that it would drain funds for hatcheries and… Read more »

Trouble
Trouble
9 years ago
Reply to  salblaster

Salblaster- Dave Cogdill was given the Golden Trout award by Cal Trout in 2006 according to his own list of awards as a state senator. I find it hard to believe he is now against the Cal Trout bill now. Cal Trout is trying to get their hands on 33%… Read more »