An estimated 80 East Side residents marched in solidarity with those impacted by the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade, the 50-year old ruling legalizing abortions.
The Court pushed the issue back to the states with the result of a broad range of legislation that could punish abortion providers and criminalize travel to states where the procedure is still legal.
The march from Bishop City Park to Line Street and back to the park, was met with a chorus of supporting honks from passing vehicles and only a few scattered jeers. One of the issues brought out in discussions was the keen interest of children in utero but far less concern when
it came to child care, education and health care funding as well as support for single mothers.
Abortions are still legal in California.
Dear Forced Birthers, When you insist that a rape survivor carry the child to term and then the court system grants parental rights to the rapist I sincerely believe you are making yourself a very nice bed in Hell. May you enjoy it for eternity.
I agree with you that we should pass laws to ensure that convicted rapists are NEVER granted any parental rights EVER!
Wow,talk about biased media. Allowing these angry people to demean myself and Noel with their short sighted opinions, yet you refuse to post my opinion because it might anger them?
This is the essence of new fascist liberalism and exactly why it will fail.
So you complain about being demeaned and then paint others as short sighted fascists?
Guess that is one way to foster a respectful discourse.
Pedro A pretty good chance he’s a “conservative trumper “..bashing and blaming the Liberals and Democrats for just about everything and everyone that doesn’t agree with them or support their thinking…and then thinking and saying,as they are “ordered ” to do,since they can’t think on their own,how their 30 %… Read more »
If you’re really anti-abortion, put your money where your mouth is – start calling your legislators and demanding the draft be used to recruit all men, age 18-25. These men will then all be given reversible vasectomies. And discharged. This continues for every man on his 18th birthday. A man… Read more »
A human unborn child has a right to live too. If a mom fell into hard times and couldn’t provide for her children, we would not say that it is OK to “eliminate” the children! We must protect all lives. Let us all reach out and do more to help… Read more »
Glad to hear you’re in favor of universal health care, paid maternity leave, comprehensive sex ed, free childcare programs, and increasing the minimum wage. But you would have been better off pushing those programs as they actually lower abortion rates. Again, demographically, most women who get abortions already have at… Read more »
It is true that you cannot catch pregnancy from another woman, but it is easily contracted from any man, and it only takes 30 seconds!
More often than not abortion is nothing more than a shameful convenience.
More often than not, the woman getting an abortion is age 24-29 and already has at least one child she is already struggling to care for properly. Given the lack of paid maternity leave and high medical costs in the USA versus every other developed country in the world, actually… Read more »
and you know that because?
What I’d like to know is where the help and safety net is for those who will now be forced to give birth to genetically messed up kids who will not live, or if they do, likely die in suffering, or be totally dependent for life. Who will now help… Read more »
They don’t care about those lives. If anything, they’ll whine about “welfare queens”.
It’s a pity the forced-birth and rape-apologist crowd has never thrown nearly the effort into providing for actual living children that they did into getting Roe V. Wade overturned.
Instead, they’d rather celebrate living women have less bodily autonomy than a corpse.
These self-identified “Christians” are a blight on America.
So blight is the new word for the people you don’t agree with. Your problem is worse than you realize.
No. A blight is forcing one’s personal views on others. Call me when “Christians” are actually oppressed. When they are forced into abortion, or gay marriage, or aren’t wildly over represented in all branches of government. There’s lots of people I don’t agree with on both sides of the political… Read more »
Nothing like small government conservatism, unless you’re a woman. Then men, and a woman on the SCOTUS, is gonna allow states to prosecute you for your choices.
The hypocrisy from these supposed small government, get government out of our lives folks is legendary.
This Federalist Society suck. Up0⁰SCOTUS is pathetic.
Until the journey is taken being the same as those who judgements are placed upon there is only underestimated poorly fed assumptions of those who lack understanding of individual choice of oneself.
My body, my choice!! And that goes for everything!!
Your choice to accept the consequences when you refuse to do what will help protect yourself and others from a highly contagious disease. We could have controlled this epidemic a long time ago if people had sensibly responded as we did to polio and smallpox and a lot of other… Read more »
Covid is highly contagious, over a million Americans have died of it. No one has ever caught pregnancy from a pregnant woman.
So what irresponsible choice are we really taking about?? The jab doesn’t work.. What does work is to get HEALTHY. Do not be a big fatty and think a shot is going to save your life. But media won’t address that, because it is “fat shaming” . Forcing me to… Read more »
Kinda obsessed with “fat” are you? I knew someone like that – but he was trying to overcome his hatred of “fat” because he believed a “fat” woman would never leave him because she couldn’t get anyone else.
At age 14 in the late 1950s I was seduced by a man of 32. A doctor told me “You’ve made your bed, now lie on it.” Pregnant and parentless, I went to a drug store and bought multiple medications labeled “Not to be taken by pregnant women” and took… Read more »
Thank you. These are the very common stories the rape apologists are so quick to proclaim don’t happen or that “oh so much good” can come of them.
Deb needs to get out more often to see the efforts of our schools, churches and community groups at providing for children in need. To say there seems little interest in that is simply untrue. Now child abortion supporters may show little interest in helping needy children and mothers, because… Read more »
Greg I’m wondering – have you yourself adopted a child born in America, or have you ever opened your home to foster children? And truly, kudos if you have. I only know one anti-abortion couple that actually did foster/adopt. I know more pro-choice people that have done so. If a… Read more »
Well said . The bottom line, is this issue does not belong in courts! It is a moral and personal issue and has no business being legislated. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but a law??? I am still stunned. Our country is regressing big time under this Supreme Court.… Read more »
You’re right it doesnt belong in the Supreme court or lower courts. The decision should always have been in our state legislatures and now it is. The decision didnt remove a single right from women, sorry. Wondering, yes, we couldnt have children so we mentored a boy through his early… Read more »
Greg Weirick You know,I know,we ALL know,this is only getting the foot in the door,for the conservatives and the trump-led SCOTUS (some of them anyway ) to make it a Federal law and decision…where individual States will have no say in it….totally a SCOTUS decision Nationwide. They want it over-turned… Read more »
Conservatives only give more to charity if you count their churches as charity. But it’s a lot of double speak to classify as “charity” the expense of the pastor’s new car, an alter makeover, and to settle the lawsuit over what the youth pastor did to that child. Bodily autonomy… Read more »
And also,for the conservatives,most of the big-name ones anyway,if their “charity” also includes lining their own pockets with money and some type of scam involved…
I wonder what you would do if you show up expecting healthcare and can’t get it? Scream and yell, wave your arms, stomp your feet ? Just curious.
Many of these men are commenting with zero experience or point of reference beyond what they think they know, and they lack imagination. Let’s get specific for them Kay. What would they do if they can no longer get viagra or cialis, or any other ED treatment. No matter how… Read more »
Funny, I’ve thought the same thing ! In fact, those meds should only be prescribed to women and the women get to decide who is worthy – LOL !!!
No legislating at all Greg. Not even our state… it’s a personal choice..
Mentoring is nice, but you can’t seriously be comparing mentoring with fostering or adopting!!! That’s beyond delusional.
Just curious: do you think the state legislature should decide what people can and cannot do with their prostate, seminal vesicles, testis, and vas deference, too? Or is that an invasion of privacy, and lawmakers getting involved in the doctor-patient relationship?
Wait, you couldn’t have kids and you didn’t adopt or foster one? Why would you possibly make that choice when every life matters and you and your wife had all the benefit of time and resources?
It is a medical procedure and should have been politized in the first place,
So tell us more about how the churches are caring for the needs of children and families. Would that be by harassing school children over masking? Spreading misinformation tyke has left thousands of children without parents, but I digress. Are you paying the medical bills for those patents who are… Read more »
So glad you are interested in what “the Bible directs”. You might also like to look at: Mark 12:30 and 31, Jer. 1;5, Deut. 32:39 and Ex.21:22.
“….see the efforts of our schools, churches and community groups at providing for children in need.” How about two examples from each, please. should be easy.
There are many churches and organizations helping people who have unexpected pregnancies and who help as children grow. Each part may seem small, but together we can all do a lot. We can join with these groups to help, but more importantly, we can as individuals reach out to those… Read more »
This is all fine and good for people that chose to bring a birth to term. I applaud these efforts! But forcing a woman to undergo a painful birth against her will is not a christian thing to do, especially if said birth is related to incest, rape or any… Read more »
We live in a very broken world and the answers aren’t always easy. The way we know how a Christian should act is by looking in the Bible. The Bible is clear that rape is horrific and sinful in the eyes of God and should be severely punished. It also… Read more »
So let’s just say christians are correct and that when we all die god will judge us and send everyone to either heaven or hell accordingly. Fine. Then every woman who has chosen to have an abortion, whatever her reasons, will stand before her maker and be judged by god.… Read more »
If we follow that scenario, and everyone just “minded their own business” and just waited for God’s judgment, rapists, murderers, thieves, and child molesters would all be able to go about doing whatever they wished. I don’t think any of us would want to live in a society where everyone… Read more »
Your “God” argument is wearisome and doesn’t apply. Stop shoving your god nonsense into everybody’s life. Clearly, your god is doing a pretty poor job of managing all those knitting projects left strewn across the planet that are starving, trafficked, homeless, tortured, and forgotten.
I agree that the world has so many people who are suffering! I don’t think that these people aren’t deserving of life! I don’t think we should abort babies to stop homelessness, trafficking, starvation or other horrible things that are happening. We should work on fixing the problems!
Ok. The problem is that there are too many babies being born.
The birthrate in the US has been declining every year since 2008 with the exception of 2014.
sweetie – the planet is much more than the US and the population has grown to the point of famine in some regions
……the global birthrate has dropped as well.
The Bible is FULL of rape. I guess you haven’t read it.
The Bible is FULL of the depravity of men and women. It is also FULL of redemption and salvation.
Those pathetically small ways are making a pathetically small impact…
I agree that we should all be doing more and encouraging others to do more!
So what are you and your church groups doing to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies rather than try to fix all the problems unwanted children and overpopulation causes? And please don’t start with the abstinence talk. We all know that doesn’t work. Not even for your Virgin Mary. Besides Dan’s fantastic idea… Read more »
And all of you fine folks are helping needy mothers who chose to have their child how? The attacks on Noel and I are atrocious, but fortunately you folks are only a small minority of the mostly decent pro choice people. How many of you have done ANYTHING for young… Read more »
I’m wondering if you can drill down into your rationale a little deeper to help me understand why not having the resources to adopt prevented you from adopting, and why the same lack of resources to raise a child is not a legitimate reason for women who find themselves with… Read more »
You are not the victim here and now you are claiming to be a victim when you are being held accountable for your hypocrisy. You didn’t respond to my previous comment which probably means you really aren’t willing to make sacrifices to help women and children but you want the… Read more »
And abortion has a strong impact on helping poor and homeless get back on their feet more than all the other social services? How many efforts have sny of you made to improve society so families can thrive? Silence, of course, saving our society thats already doomed doesnt matter. Good… Read more »
“….see the efforts of our schools, churches and community groups at providing for children in need.” How about two examples from each, please. should be easy.
Delusion is ignoring that the power players in the Democrat machine love seeing you all screAm and yell while they are grabbing power by undermining our decent society in every way they can. Please open your eyed to reality!
Do you know what one of the biggest socioeconomic factors that keep counties prosperous is? Educated women in the workforce! You want to keep America great Greg? Women need to be able to have control over their own bodies. They need to decide if and when they give birth and… Read more »
There are thousands of older children waiting to be adopted, however there aren’t waiting lists to adopt those children. Those waiting lists are for babies and those adoptive parents generally want perfect white babies. If the baby has is medically fragile then then prospective parents generally would choose not to… Read more »
Those wanting to become mothers need to first look at the purse of the sperm donor to assure funds will be available to provide for the child.
Dear Concerned, I do not believe these precious children’s lives are worthless because they were born to poor families or because they are ” medically challenged”. Every life is precious. I agree with you that we all should be doing more to help these children and families. Ending a human… Read more »
Regarding that “heart” beat: The thing we call a “heart” is not present as an organ until at least 20 weeks gestation. The so-called “heartbeat” of an embryo is created by the ultrasound machine. There is no heart, there is no “heartbeat” and the undifferentiated cluster of cells is just… Read more »
A baby’s heart begins to beat 5 weeks after conception, before most women even know that they are pregnant. At 6 weeks the baby’s tiny fingers and toes begin to form. 5 weeks later fingerprints begin to form. Brain activity starts by week 10. This baby also has his/her own… Read more »
So what solutions do you offer. You say you want life to be valued, Do you wear a mask to prevent the spread of Covid-19 to protect those who maybe compromised? If you couldn’t be bothered to wear a mask, get vaccinations and follow precautions or did you attend weekly… Read more »
Dear Concerned, I did take the Covid virus seriously. I was concerned about spreading the virus to the elderly and to vulnerable people. I stayed home, and masked and used gallons of hand sanitizer on the very rare occasion that I left the house. When masks (at least the cloth… Read more »
Also 40% of adopted children are a different race than their adopted parents. I agree that it is outrageous that so many older children spend so much time through the red tape of our foster care system before being adopted. One third of couples in the US have considered adoption.… Read more »
Considered adopting?!! Probably about the same percentage that have “considered” sky diving. If just a fraction of all those that have considered adoption actually did more than give it a passing thought, there wouldn’t be so many children in foster care. And I’m still waiting to hear what you all… Read more »
I will not be naming organizations and groups that are helping children and families to be judged on this platform. We should be encouraging people to continue and even to do more, not trying to discourage and discredit them. Let’s just say for a moment that every prolife person is… Read more »
Here’s the thing – No one is arguing with you or Greg that people need help and those who can help should. Abortion is not about a charity competition to see what group of people can give more. Loosing the right to abortion is about women loosing the agency over… Read more »
Dear Let’s talk prevention. First let me say that I am a woman. I think it is important to listen to where people are coming from and not just assume who they are and what they believe. I believe in contraception that isn’t abortive. I believe that an unborn human… Read more »
Dear Let’s talk prevention, I believe that we all have bodily autonomy. We can not however hurt another human who also has bodily autonomy. Most of us would say that it would not be OK for someone who was pregnant to take substances to purposely cause physical injury and to… Read more »
If a free workshop on skydiving was going to be held near you, and everyone would get a chance to skydive at the end, wouldn’t you try it? I know that I would!
And are your church groups willing to cut the red tape for ALL couples that want to adopt? Including same sex couples or even thruples?
Adoption by same sex couples is already legal in all 50 states.
And Pride festivals and parades are legal as well. But that sure didn’t stop the throngs of church leaders and christians from ranting and spewing hate and trying to put a stop to Bishop’s recent festival and the proclamations by the county and city. So many people claiming the love… Read more »
Dear Let’s talk prevention, I know emotions can run high when we are talking about things that truly matter to us. You are right that hate gets us nowhere. Hopefully we can all discuss what we believe without using hate.
So let’s come back to reality is more adoption is not going to stop abortions, Giving up a baby can be very traumatic and it’s complex legally and emotionally. Do you support adoptions non trading families. Because some of the same people preaching adoption wont support an adoption by a… Read more »
Dear Concerned, First of all thank you for being so passionate about all of these issues that matter to children and families. We need more people who care like you do, and who are working to make things better. We may disagree on a few points, but I am so… Read more »