Letter to the editor: Darwin award

Closure on Tuttle Creek Rd.

Benett,

Attached should be a shot of the “intersection closure” on Tuttle Creek canyon road at the seven thousand foot level in the Sierra. The second shot labeled: AlternateRoute shows the remaining access, through private property, to get to the several hundred acres of pine-nutting/dear hunting area used daily this time of year, by many, many people.

Alternate route through private property to Tuttle.

Someone gets a Darwin Award nomination for this one!

Note that the barrier is at the base of a steep hill. Any vehicle coming over that hill from the other side finds itself nose into a barrier with the choice of backing up a steep blind grade or going around the barrier through the brush. Unsafe, stupid placement of the barrier. Worse is the result: the daily traffic that was using this access, goes down canyon about 3/4 of a mile, turns across private property and then goes up a ridiculously steep, severely eroded Forest Service road that even the four wheelers haven’t used in fifty years, but now is the only way to drive to that pine forest area.
Like many folks, I have personal anger over the fact that I was told; “no closures would happen in this area”, and told it by every forest service official at every public meeting for over three years.
All of the feed back that I have heard about this closure is very negative, to vengeful. The area that they attempted to close is a favorite of locals and travelers alike for day use and it is the easiest road access to pine nuts anywhere around Lone Pine. The words ‘blatant disregard’ come to mind.
To add injury to the insult: this was the one road our daughter could take, in her wheel chair, to get into the pinion pines, from our house. When they replanted the intersection, they made a point of leaving no trail connecting the roads. Criminal! She has been going into that canyon her entire life and snap, one day it’ a crime for her to cross the barrier!

Russ Monroe

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Rob
Rob
10 years ago

Time for some good ‘ol-fashioned Monkey Wrenching…

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob

We probably could find a good deal on a crate of monkey wrenches Rob.

Skipper
Skipper
10 years ago

I provided lots of input and comments in writing and at the scoping meetings. My comments included keeping intact a series of roads that all connected so that one could pass through unhindered. These roads have been use since at least the 70s when I was first on them. Traveling… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  Skipper

That’s a good point Skipper, not imagining less roads. Their defense for this management decision was based on increased of road users. So how does this makes sense, with increased users, that roads are closed, thus limiting available roads to travel on. Absurdity. It’s all about control and personal agendas… Read more »

Jerry C.
Jerry C.
10 years ago

hello hisierragal ! Sorry, but I’m not prepared to shoot someone just so I can ride my ATV. You’re clearly not a gun owner, or you would’ve got my poor attempt at making a connection between our right to access public land, and our right to own a firearm (or… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago

Well Jeremiah, you won’t be stopped from gathering pine nuts, you just can’t drive to your favorite spots .. you will have to hump it in and pack it out. But if the greenies can stop you from driving there now .. as soon as they get a hair up… Read more »

Jeremiah
Jeremiah
10 years ago
Reply to  Big AL

Dang. . Hump it in and pack it out? So its open season on whoever is CAUGHT driving up there? I am all for Protecting our plants and animals and letting it take its natural course, but when we are consuming and wasting so many resources at a rate that… Read more »

Jeremiah
Jeremiah
10 years ago

Anything or anybody trying to stop me too gather pine nuts anywhere in this valley is gonna be fighting a loosing battle!!!

Thanks Russ for the heads up.

salblaster
salblaster
10 years ago

well i guess now we can finaly answer an age old question. does a bear sh-t in the woods. aparently it does but only after a enviromental impact study has been done and a report filled by federal, state and county biologists.

sierragrl
sierragrl
10 years ago

I hope Ross doesn’t really go dear hunting…LOL wouldn’t want to be his honey

sierragrl
sierragrl
10 years ago
Reply to  sierragrl

i would hope people are smart enough to differentiate between deer and dear. i’m not disparaging deer hunting, just dear hunting….sheesh

Steve
Steve
10 years ago
Reply to  sierragrl

I got the joke, but it took a second. I think people read it too fast. 🙂

hisierragal
hisierragal
10 years ago

so Jerry C. is willing to shoot someone just so he can ride his ATV or whatever – for some reason the phrase “Nero fiddled while Rome burned” come to mind

Rob
Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  hisierragal

I’m sure Jerry C. isn’t willing to shoot anyone so he can ride his ATV.

Open carrying on public land makes a good statement.

Rob
Rob
10 years ago

I could remove the Closure on Tuttle Creek Rd. in 30 seconds without leaving a trace of it.

It’s high time for some late night shenanigans.

upthecreek
upthecreek
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob

It is amazing how the Wind can blow things away… see it many times up here in the Sierra.

Gov. Gone Wild

what ever happened to “for the people By the people”

Eamon McNamara
Eamon McNamara
10 years ago

God didn’t create the back country ADA compliant; those arguments are red herrings.

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
10 years ago
Reply to  Eamon McNamara

GOD? Seriously?… First off Eamon, the statements about closure of wheelchair access were statements of fact, not arguments, for or against, anything. If your statement: “God didn’t create the back country ADA compliant” means; God didn’t put 36” wide concrete ramps all over the wilderness, therefore cripples aren’t supposed to… Read more »

Rob
Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  Eamon McNamara

I understand God didn’t creat the bck country ADA compliant, however that’s also no reason to close a road that’s been there for a long long time.

These road closures are a perfect example of what happens when the forest service gets taken over by a bunch of greenies.

JeanGenie
JeanGenie
10 years ago
Reply to  Eamon McNamara

Thats not the back country Eamon, its front country that handicapped people did and should have access to. The Green Gestapo strikes again.

leatherbag
leatherbag
10 years ago
Reply to  Eamon McNamara

“God didn’t create the back country ADA compliant; those arguments are red herrings.” And if God had meant for man to fly, he’d have given him wings. Talk about red friggin’ herrings! If God had given man the knowledge to get into the back country, he’d have made pack mules… Read more »

Problem Solved
Problem Solved
10 years ago

Russ, I’m sorry to hear your daughter no longer has access to the forest since she is disabled. At the last ” Travel Management ” meeting @ the Forest Service Theater in Mammoth, a ” Disabled person ” asked the ” Top Ranger ” if they included the ” American… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  Problem Solved

They are handicap enabling until it doesn’t fit their agenda .. then like anything else, it doesn’t count that you are against .. implementation will go ahead.

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  Big AL

And you’re right .. some Darwin awards are in order for a few things going on.

sierragrl
sierragrl
10 years ago
Reply to  Problem Solved

I think people are a bit confused on Darwin Awards… the idea of a Darwin Award is someone does something really stupid, which causes them to die before being able to procreate, thus not being able to pass on their genes… No-one at the USFS is going to die and… Read more »

Big AL
Big AL
10 years ago
Reply to  sierragrl

It is aimed at the people who did the work such as described in some of these posts, such as places where the barrier is placed in such a way that someone causes harm to their vehicle and or themselves when they come to them, or that it causes them… Read more »

Jerry C.
Jerry C.
10 years ago

What a jumble, and a humiliation to everything our small community stands for! If “they” can pound posts into the earth, why can’t we simply remove them?!? Seems easy enough. Who’s doing this anyway? Perhaps it’s time folks start acting like the strong-willed Americans that they once were. Folks! For… Read more »