Letter to the editor: dismayed by law enforcement

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Keary Gregg <[email protected]> wrote:

I love driving scenic 395 every year I have gone to the Burning Man festival since 2002. Oftentimes I will spend the night in Bishop, in which case we eat out at least two times, and of course, fill up on gas and snacks.

This year, in Bridgeport, in the late afternoon, I ran into a full vehicle “Sobriety Checkpoint” stop, drivers license inspection, questioning by the officer as to where I was coming from and where I was going. There were many officers on hand, including search dog. It was intimidating and un-nerving, especially considering the light traffic due to the nearby fires and smoke in the air. Night time sobriety checkpoints in the restaurant and bar heavy tourist town of Laguna Beach are not manned as heavily. But tiny Bridgeport? Do people there start drinking earlier in the day? It felt like an international border crossing.

I believe that because I and my passenger are in our 60’s and do not look like “Burners” were treated better than some of my friends in other vehicles.

In other towns, friends of mine traveling at different times in a caravan were pulled over en mass for what they felt were flimsy and spurious reasons. There were no arrests or citations.

I am not willing to travel 395 again, having to worry about whether I am going slow enough across an empty crosswalk even though I am under the speed limit, or if I happen to “swerve” while watching for pedestrians, or worry about a warrantless search that leaves my belongings in a mess because a canine handler gets bored and decides his dog “signaled” even though the vehicle was clean. These are some of the experiences that I heard about from others this year.

I had already decided not to travel 395 next year even before I heard about the proposed boycott. Hopefully at next year’s event I will hear good news about the 395 route and feel comfortable enough to return to using it. I believe that the local law enforcement ultimately is responsive to the community will, and doesn’t care a hoot what tourists from outside the county think about their enforcement “style”. If this year’s example of law enforcement on the 395 is a demonstration of the communities desire, hopefully the communities will reconsider.

Sincerely,

K. Gregg

Laguna Niguel

 

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Jim Shelley
Jim Shelley
5 years ago

I had planned on a roadtrip from ~Palm Springs to South Lake Tahoe in July, 2018. Looked at the 395 as that was my direct route. Had considered the 99… even the 5. Then I found this page. I’ll eat the extra hour and take the 99. Thank you for… Read more »

Brandon
Brandon
9 years ago

Mono County residents have spoken on your overzealous sherrif and his tactics. There have been many matters brought to light about how he treats people including his own coworkers. Wrongfully firing Ingrid Braun (that worked out well for him since she is taking his job). This isnt just about burners.… Read more »

Flower Power
Flower Power
10 years ago

Save your energy everyone! All locals in favor of making a change need to do so amicably when the polls open, which is a long time from now. Maybe we can cut the Sherrif ranks in half the way Mammoth did with its police force? In the meantime, where do… Read more »

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago

Athough drug use has been steady for most ages but it has been booming for “baby boomers” here watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2hqSq8QgM If you don’t care to watch it here’s the stats (source is Raw story.com) 2002 -2012 ages 50 – 54 (2002 3.4% admitted to using in the last… Read more »

Really?
Really?
10 years ago

There are a lot of good people working for our community in local departments. They are a cross section of the community as a whole and sometimes are seen as good doing what they have to do and sometimes not so much. The Sheriff is one of them. They are… Read more »

In the know
In the know
10 years ago

Obenberger is so desperate for good public relations he will attach his department to anything that give him or his department headlines! His department is under such scrutiny he will do what ever he can! Guess his own conscious is catching up! Don’t worry his true colors are already realized… Read more »

Curious
Curious
10 years ago

YOUR sheriff has a contract with Forrest Service to patrol the campgrounds. If you have never seen one in a campground maybe you should ask him why. He is getting paid for it. Just ask him.

Ice Cream Bob
Ice Cream Bob
10 years ago

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall the orignal article saying anything about anyone being arrested for driving under the influence. So everyone’s concern about burners drivng up 395 high on dope isn’t realistic. The fact is they’re saving their recreational drugs for the playa. Does anyone… Read more »

donegal
donegal
10 years ago

Profiling? Going to Burning Man. Check. Boycotting.check. Dwells on Police State. Check. Anarchist. definitely.Must be an absolute joy to travel with. Give our cops a break. They are trying to keep some drunk jerk from killing you.

Sick of Mono County
Sick of Mono County
10 years ago

Guess we need to amend the Mono County Code exemption that excludes locals from the law to include “Burners” to. I guess we should just not enforce any law because its bad for business. The City of Newport Beach has a very aggressive enforcement posture yet millions of people visit… Read more »

johnjcampnfish
johnjcampnfish
10 years ago

I have to chuckle at everybody that thinks it’s going to be better to drive I5 than 395. Sure, there is cheaper gas and the motels are half the price. As someone who lives in the San Joaquin valley, I can tell you that after a trip or two through… Read more »

Eastern Sierra Local
Eastern Sierra Local
10 years ago
Reply to  johnjcampnfish

Why on Earth would Law Enforcement patrol a campground filled with cheap campers when the big bucks on the roads? I’ve NEVER seen a cop in a campground EVER!

Stacks
Stacks
10 years ago
Reply to  johnjcampnfish

Good concept but they do not patrol the campgrounds, most likely because there is no revenue to be generated there.

Well alrighty then
Well alrighty then
10 years ago
Reply to  Stacks

Most campgrounds, not all, but most are either Forest Service or BLM. Those campgrounds have their own Law Enforcement which is why you would not see a police officer or sheriff patrol. They arrive if needed/called. Just an FYI

johnjcampnfish
johnjcampnfish
10 years ago

I can’t remember now whether it was MLPD or Mono Sheriffs, but a couple years ago I was camping at Sherwin cg when an officer drove through the campground. He even stopped and complimented me on the Gadsden flag sticker on my trailer. BTW, if a local economy is so… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  johnjcampnfish

You don’t have to worry about the freak show anymore. The word is out and they’ll be avoiding Mono County all together. Talk about having all your eggs in one basket; the local economy is so fragile it relies on a trout species that isn’t even native to the area.… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  johnjcampnfish

I have driven 5, 99, and 395 for decades and have never seen checkpoints other than 395. Northern Mono has more tailgating stink eye officers than any other stretch I have seen.

free advice
free advice
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

Pedro –
Just obey the law and everything will work out fine.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  free advice

Yes, Daddy.

“You must obey the law, always, not just when they grab you by your special place.” Vladimir Putin

Falling Leaf
Falling Leaf
10 years ago

What’s going on with the people in Mammoth Lakes? All I see is a lot of personal attacks on people and a lot of hate and uneducated guesses.

Why the negativity towards Mammoth?
Why the negativity towards Mammoth?
10 years ago
Reply to  Falling Leaf

Nothing is going on with the people in Mammoth Lakes. Blogs such as these do not exactly attract the happiest people in the world. (I thought EVERYBODY knew that) Also, there seems to be a lot of negativity from those who do NOT live in Mammoth (mostly from Inyo County)… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

Mr. Negativity, You have no idea where the critics live.
BK

a no-brainer
a no-brainer
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

It’s not that easy to figure out, Ms. Kessler.
Nobody really disses where they live.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  a no-brainer

I would disagree with that statement.
BK

If it sounds like a duck ...
If it sounds like a duck ...
10 years ago
Reply to  a no-brainer

Kindly speak for yourself, Ms. Kessler.
It’s well known how a lot of people from Inyo County feel about our wonderful town of Mammoth Lakes and its wonderful people.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

I always do speak for myself and my own experiences.
Benett Kessler

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago

I live in Mono County and I don’t like Mammoth. Why, Mammoth thinks it is Mono County. This entire thread has largely been about Bridgeport and you still think it is about Mammoth. Best thing about Mammoth is that it went bankrupt to provide me with subsidized flights out of… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

The Town never went bankrupt. Point of fact.
BK

LaFawnduh
LaFawnduh
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

A few more buyouts and a few more lawsuits and TOML might go bankrupt yet.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Not legally, just ethically.

Uncle Rico
Uncle Rico
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

The Town is morally bankrupt under the leadership of Mr. Rick Wood…

dm
dm
10 years ago

This accomplished two things: It caused locals to lose even more respect for law enforcement. And it caused locals to lose a lot of business. Did you see the vehicles the Burners are driving? They aren’t exactly run-down VW vans left over from the last Dead tour. These people have… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  dm

dm…What it will do ….if these arrests made “don’t stick”….is maybe teach them,and some others too,that Inyo County and Mono County isn’t an area where it’s O.K. to drive and transport illegal drugs….or be hopped up on them while your doing it….What makes you think these arrests “won’t stick” ?….from… Read more »

MonoResident
MonoResident
10 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Deja

I was stopped in the checkpoint. It took a minute or two. The officer was professional and personable. I would prefer checkpoints and law enforcement over being smeared on the highway or having one of my loved ones killed by someone jacked up on alcohol, caffeine, whatever – and a… Read more »

Eastern Sierra Local
Eastern Sierra Local
10 years ago
Reply to  dm

amen DM!

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  dm

Hopefully BK follows the court cases and reports back on the outcome

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago

JCH…As far as “some of the posts”…and “unwarranted road blocks” go in the Bridgeport area,maybe we should ask what the citizens and visitors to that area think…..especially when it concerns the travelers to Burning Man……Would the business’ in Bridgeport rather rake in the $$$ from the sale of alcohol and… Read more »

Eastern Sierra Local
Eastern Sierra Local
10 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Deja

No one pulled over by the Bridgeport checkpoint was intoxicated….only nabbed for possession.

Upset local
Upset local
10 years ago

I think it’s ridiculous that we don’t support our local law enforcement. If you don’t have anything to hide then what’s the big deal. What everyone seems to forget is that our local law enforcement officers are also citizens of our very own community and have wife’s, husbands, and most… Read more »

Rob
Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  Upset local

“If you don’t have anything to hide then what’s the big deal.”

The “big deal” is that cops are sworn to uphold the Constitution. Stopping anyone without probable cause is a violation of the law. I am pro-law enforcement until they break the law.

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Upset local

It’s hard to support Mono County law enforcement when they terminate very very qualified people like the women who worked for L.A. internal affairs.

She could bring a lot of grief to the Sheriff like the other deputy is doing now.

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago
Reply to  Upset local

What’s the big deal? the big deal is our country is hurting for new direction and new ideology’s that fit the times.. (deficit, police state, world police, the fact our votes mean little compared to big donors, fractional reserve banking, the monetary system, outdated power sources, climate destabilization, the fact… Read more »

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

Glad I read this thread, never heading north to Bridgeport again… time to spread the word.

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago
Reply to  Steve

The area around Mojave is worse than anything up in Bridgeport, and Chippies hang out on the on ramps to Hwy 14 at California City Bl, on Garlock Road and they hide in the access road turn outs alongside US 395 north of Inyokern. That whole region from Rosamond north… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago

Give me a break

I’ve never heard of a check point with K9’s anywhere but in Mono County.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I don’t believe there were dogs at any check point. There was a CHP checkpoint in August. I believe it was August 17.
Then, the next weekend the saturation patrol. The Sheriff’s Department did not have a checkpoint. As we understand it,
officers stopped people with traffic violations.
Benett Kessler

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Can anyone tell me if they had to wait while the K9 unit arrived?

If so that is a start to getting cases thrown out of court

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Being that the dog ‘hit’ on vehicles that lead to a search and no drugs being found I would also go after the crediblity of the K9.

JCH
JCH
10 years ago

Well, I have experienced the tail gating police in BP before. Never got pulled over nor have I stopped in BP. However, after the above posts and the unwarranted road blocks I will take my annual trip to Lake Tahoe up the 5 thru Sacramento and skip BP altogether. Usually… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  JCH

If I was completely legal I’d brake check the fool

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark

If the leo rear ends you it is their fault, period. I brake checked a San Diego PD cop tail gating me in the fog one night (so foggy you could not tell it was a cop on my back bumper). Made the fool swerve real hard, gave me the… Read more »

Tony Cumia
Tony Cumia
10 years ago

At the last Grenade Games at June Mountain I got stopped as i was heading back into town….no big deal…guess why? BECAUSE I HAD NOTHING TO HIDE.

Tourbillon
Tourbillon
10 years ago
Reply to  Tony Cumia

Good obedient boy Tony. Some of us, however, chafe when told “show me your papers, citizen”, even when we have nothing to hide. This is because we were raised to believe we are free people who consent to be governed, not subjects of a divinely imposed regency that can pry… Read more »

Tony Cumia
Tony Cumia
10 years ago

If we can all be honest about what Burning Man is all about, then we can understand why this happened. Does anyone remember the last Grenade Games at June Mountain?When your logo promoting the event is a pot bud…what do you expect?

Charles O. Jones
Charles O. Jones
10 years ago

Anyone who chooses to buy gas in Bridgeport is DEFINITELY driving impaired!

Stacks
Stacks
10 years ago

……they are not from around there, it really crushing the tourist business. I’m so paranoid going through town. Paranoid I might look away for a second and touch the yellow line, or simply just catch a 22 yr old chp officer who is bored and ready to “see what I’m… Read more »

Bportlocal
Bportlocal
10 years ago

The people leaving these messages that state we don’t need our want money from ANYONE…it’s an absolute rediculous statement! Obviously they don’t own a business! Obviously they don’t have bills to pay in the winter when there is NO business! And obviously they are not thinking of those that do.… Read more »

Stacks
Stacks
10 years ago
Reply to  Bportlocal

Although this originated from the burning man time frame, I think it’s important to reiterate Bportlocal that this is not isolated to burning man or the roving patrols. It is all the time. Even my extended family that visits BP for vacation experience the same issues. I can tell you… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Bportlocal

The people saying the don’t want burners money are the very same people that if they would leave the area… the area would be a better place.

Big Rick OBrien
Big Rick OBrien
10 years ago
Reply to  Bportlocal

I hope all the business owners remember this when it comes to the next Mono County election.

SMH
SMH
10 years ago

On Aug. 28 I was travelling North on 395 around 11:30pm. As soon as I went over the bridge into the town of Bridgeport a cop was sitting there waiting for someone to come into town. He was facing South. As soon as I drove passed him he made a… Read more »

Roy
Roy
10 years ago

The best thing about being retired after 30 years in law enforcement is I don’t have to listen to you anti cop people whine and complain….

Sean
Sean
10 years ago
Reply to  Roy

I love you Roy

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Roy

Not anticop just anti bully.

Tourbillon
Tourbillon
10 years ago
Reply to  Roy

Poor Roy. Well chin up bucko, look on the bright side. While you whine and complain about those 30 awful years serving the public, you are enjoying full retirement pay at what, 50? 55? Plus extensive health care that most eastern Sierrans can only dream about. All at the expense… Read more »

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago
Reply to  Roy

Okay, so in your years of service where do “check points” and the “drug war” fit into anything that is productive for society? like say how much of those activities led to less drug activity in the future? The stats say it leads to counter-productive deliverable’s, so was it a… Read more »

Alocal
Alocal
10 years ago

When you drive around LA at 70 mph, you get passed like you are standing still. But then South of Bridgeport, I received from a very arrogant young CHP officer, a ticket for going 60mph in a 55mph zone. It was 10 o’clock at night with no one else on… Read more »

Eastern Sierra Local
Eastern Sierra Local
10 years ago
Reply to  Alocal

You should’ve contacted Caltrans for the latest speed survey conducted in the area….if 60 mph was within the 85% then the ticket would have had to be thrown out. If a speed survey is older than 5 years it also isn’t a valid ticket.

Eastern Sierra Local
Eastern Sierra Local
10 years ago
Reply to  Alocal

It’s quiet interesting reading the “Hooray for police” comments. People in this country have become so reliant on police and the long arm of the law to “protect” them that it’s rather sad. It’s not OK for “domestic violence” but it’s OK for police officers to beat the citizens in… Read more »

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago

I love your response Eastern Sierra Local. Here’s my two cents; Prohibition denies our most basic human right. Prohibition takes away our right of sovereignty over our own bodies and gives this power to government. Does any other human right make sense if we don’t have sovereignty over our own… Read more »

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago
Reply to  Alocal

ESL, there are statutory speed limits that do not require a traffic survey to make a radar ticket or any ticket valid. Don’t ask me how I know this. On a four lane divided highway you need a traffic survey to justify any speed over 55, but you poke a… Read more »

Big Rick OBrien
Big Rick OBrien
10 years ago
Reply to  Alocal

Of COURSE he encouraged you to fight the ticket in court…He wanted the over-time pay !

Dingo
Dingo
10 years ago

I would have expected somebody in their 60″s to be smarter than that, Keary Gregg.

BobK
BobK
10 years ago

Wow. I didn’t realize congratulating the Sheriffs Dept./CHP was “mean, useless rhetoric” Sorry.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  BobK

It’s not. We are highly in favor of congratulating work well done. I’m not sure what comment you are talking about.
All I was responding to was the fact that I delete some comments. Trying to keep the conversation productive and fun.
Benett Kessler

Tom O.
Tom O.
10 years ago

Apparently these fools dont know how to read maps…..avoid Inyo/Mono Counties to go north of Reno?…enjoy your 6 hour[at least] detour.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Tom O.

Laguna to Reno about 500 miles via 395. About 570 miles via Sacramento and straight shot up 5 with cheaper gas, lodging and food. An hour or less difference, if any. take 6 out of Bishop and work your way north and it is less miles and you avoid Mono… Read more »

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

US 6 over to US 95 is interesting and scenic, one of my preferred mototcycle adventures. That 70 mile difference between taking Hwy 99 to I-80 or taking US 395 to Reno evaporates time wise when you consider the higher speeds you can maintain, with no small towns to slow… Read more »

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

The radio stations going up through the San Joaquin Valley are better than anything on US 395 too. If you have to sit for hours in a cage (car) little things like that start to matter.

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

I would take major exception to that!
BK

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

It’s true, Bakersfield has a great Country and Western station that plays the new and the old. I remember the last time I drove through hearing Wichita Lineman, Cash, and Haggard alongside Crash My Party. Their classic rock station is also very progressive and diverse. When I drive 395 I… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

One thing Bako has that Inyo/Mono counties do not is a thriving economy. Between the oil industry and the agriculture Bakersfield is a place to make some money. All industries that pay better then the tourism industry. I’m a bit old school where there’s only two types of music; Country… Read more »

Russ Monroe
Russ Monroe
10 years ago

Is it; Arrogance or is it; Ignorance?
Doesn’t matter; it’s just an irrelevant pseudonym exercising it’s cruelty….

angel cordero
angel cordero
10 years ago

Hard drugs are a cancer on OUR country ! Our grandparents would not tolerate the way politicians and law enforcement are treating people. This is a scary place to be sometimes, for crooks and cops and you and me. I am thankful we have a system of brave men and… Read more »

The 10th Letter
The 10th Letter
10 years ago
Reply to  angel cordero

Unless god’s the DA, no action will be taken.

Trouble
Trouble
10 years ago
Reply to  angel cordero

Angel- what generation did you grow up in? The Nacey Reagan generation? The war on drugs is now going on 40 years and the real truth of the matter is it has failed completely. The real drug problem our youth face today is with our drug manufactures.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  angel cordero

My grandparents remembered when cocaine, heroin and cannabis were sold over the counter. They still managed to be godfearing folk. What is your point.

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago
Reply to  angel cordero

I wonder if one can believe in the second coming of Jesus or GOD, and at the same time believe in Climate Change? LOL No money in politics is the cancer in our country, and those who vote blindly are the cancer in this country. I would love to hear… Read more »

Steve
Steve
10 years ago
Reply to  angel cordero

This country was created by murders who stole the land from the Natives.. get a clue or take a real history lesson.

The Aggressive Progressive!
The Aggressive Progressive!
10 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Excuse me? Gee you must have voted for mitt, a real history lesson? Like about when the calvery came to the valley and would take the young toddler natives and hit their heads against the pine trees, or the “good” people of Lone Pine who massacred all the natives at… Read more »

John
John
10 years ago

Welcome to the U.S.S.A.

Stacks
Stacks
10 years ago

Wow, SW! Have you really resorted to deleting comments?

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago
Reply to  Stacks

Absolutely! Not interested in mean, useless rhetoric.
Benett Kessler

Mongo The Idiot
Mongo The Idiot
10 years ago
Reply to  Benett Kessler

Benett, Obviously this is your blog so its your rules, I respect that. I would like to point out though that lately your judgement been a bit too strict for a conversation that would be valued by a reader like myself. In my experience blogging on less regulated sites; wrong,… Read more »

Benett Kessler
Benett Kessler
10 years ago

I do not censor comments around products or advertisers. Some comments are useless rhetoric and mostly arrogant. Not interested.
Others are repetitive ad nauseam. Different views are great. My goal is for the conversation to stay civil, interesting and fun.
Benett Kessler

Pine Cone
Pine Cone
10 years ago

Just move Burning Man to Juarez Mexico!

Stacks
Stacks
10 years ago

My family and I are part time residents and I can tell you local law enforcement has been costing Bridgeport and Lee Vining our money. Run down to town for dinner on Friday night? Pass and eat in, for no other reason then local LE. Being less than 40 yrs… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Stacks

I’ll tell you what costed Lee Vining a LOT of tourist money…..Over the Labor Day week-end,MANY,MANY tourists headed north from L.A. going to Yosemite were told both by the flashing “HWY 120 closed” CalTrans signs along HWY 395….and by some uninformed visitor centers… that Hwy 120 was closed from the… Read more »

Rob
Rob
10 years ago

I am fascinated by the pro-checkpoint posters and those who think profiling “burners” is any way OK. It isn’t – it is a violation of the 4th Amendment, and letting local cops and overzealous CHP get away with it is BS. The only way checkpoints are legal is if they… Read more »

Sean
Sean
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob

Rob, Can you point us to some case law to back up your statements about the 4th Amendment or maybe some laws on how checkpoints are to be conducted? And just to be clear you are OK with the Mexican Mafia operating pot grows In the forrest with guys with… Read more »

Ingrid Braun
Ingrid Braun
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

To answer the case law question: A K9 sniff can be conducted during a lawful traffic stop as long as it occurs in the time reasonably necessary to conduct the stop (Illinois v. Caballes). Having a K9 sniff a vehicle at a sobriety / license / registration checkpoint is not… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Ingrid Braun

I.B., Are checkpoints considered a practice of saturation patrol? I thought saturation patrol was having more patrol cars and officers in a given area, route or call. So, if the Sheriff primarily intended to combat trafficking as they stated, and used a checkpoint, they may have contravened the Fourth Amendment… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

I believe there was no checkpoint. They pulled people over for minor vehicle violations then ran the K9 around the car. If the citizen had to wait for the K9 to arrive on scene then their 4th amendment rights were violated. Another problem is the dogs hit on vehicles where… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

Sort of slick if they used the town of Bridgeport. Pretty much a de facto checkpoint with no alternative to being scrutinized at low speed and no way to opt out. Maybe we should rename it “Fish Barrel”. Planting drugs is more of a solo thing. Too many honest officers… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Ingrid Braun

One might argue that Bridgeport was used as de facto checkpoint in that it forces one to slow down to the point where officers can accomplish much of what a checkpoint does.. Observe your behavior, look into your vehicle, see if your eyes are red, etc. It also has the… Read more »

Rob
Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Sean, Not sure why you felt it was necessary to play silly rhetorical games, my comment was crystal clear, but just in case you missed it: “…having a dusty car or looking like you may have been at BM is NOT probable cause.” The Fourth Amendment is also pretty unambiguous:… Read more »

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Sean…Maybe some of those arrested can use the “cheetos” defense when their case goes to court.. agree with what you say 100 %…Don’t think it is a good idea to allow drug trafficing,transportation of illegal drugs,and other illegal practices to take place or be allowed…as long as they are spending… Read more »

TomB
TomB
10 years ago

I drove threw the checkpoint three times that night and the wait was less than 30 seconds each time. The kids and I thought it was funny seeing some druggies getting arrested. My kids learned a valuable lesson about how drugs = jail. The LOCALS don’t care if you never… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  TomB

The locals are the reason I never exit 395 at 203. I’ve never met a larger group of takers in my life. I’d mention a list of names but BK wouldn’t let it post.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks for putting us on in your box. What a loser!

amiable
amiable
10 years ago

Being a summer resident here, I appreciate the quiet and beauty of Mono County and generally am glad that we have law enforcement there if we need it. That being said, I don’t know what earthly purpose is served by pulling over some Baby Boomers and grilling them. Especially since… Read more »

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  amiable

I believe it’s grant money, which means it’s free money right j/k

spend, spend, spend,

I really think the road block was to generate revenue. It sure was a good weekend to be in the bail bonds business 😉

Desert Tortoise
Desert Tortoise
10 years ago

Funny people these burners. If you stay on Hwy 99 and cross over the Sierras on I-80 they will never encounter a DUI check point. Major freeways are never blocked for DUI checkpoints.

INTERNET REVENUE
INTERNET REVENUE
10 years ago

Go for it, boycott the 395. I have an internet business and don’t depend on tourists for anything, other than honking their horns, driving their fancy cars and buying all the groceries from Vons during the holidays =)

Mark W
Mark W
10 years ago

You don’t depend on tourists for any thing but keeping the doors of the businesses you need open. Oh yeah, I forgot, you use the Internet to fix your car and fill it with gas, go out for dinner, buy groceries, buy sporting goods. The Internet just spits that all… Read more »

El Loco Local
El Loco Local
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark W

Don’t be fooled, It’s not pulling in enough money to be a home owner.

Falling Leaf
Falling Leaf
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark W

That’s a bad Wardlaw!

the walking dead (AKA MAMMOTH LOCAL)
the walking dead (AKA MAMMOTH LOCAL)
10 years ago

Try living here and dealing with the local law enforcement for 20 years. You learn to see the forest through the trees. Mammoth Lakes Bankrupt town + no snow = how can we generate revenue? Now throw Burning Man into the mix and what do you get, drug stops with… Read more »

Charles O. Jones
Charles O. Jones
10 years ago

There is no revenue generated from law abiding citizens.

RIP JH
RIP JH
10 years ago

There’s definitely revenue generated by law abiding citizens, its called tax placement!

Charles O. Jones
Charles O. Jones
10 years ago
Reply to  RIP JH

My statement was in the context of “the walking dead’s” comment above.

gwen
gwen
10 years ago

So do the laws not apply to Burners? Should cops grant them a free pass that week? Just so our gas stations, campgrounds can make a few bucks. What a joke. As a local I am sick of these business owners in Mono County. They only want everyone to pay… Read more »

enoughalready
enoughalready
10 years ago

Boycott Hwy 395? I would. The communities need the traffic. Obviously not the drug traffic. The local businesses need there income too. Not just revenue generated by tickets and shakedowns. Shooting fish in a barrel? Pretty soon you have no fish, then what? That was a low blow by the… Read more »

Michael D.
Michael D.
10 years ago

At the Burning Man festival and on BM discussion boards and social media sites, there was widespread warnings to avoid Inyo/Mono county, and many businesses who have become accustomed to seeing burners patronizing as they pass through, noticed a sharp drop in that traffic and the resulting revenue. When law… Read more »

MJA
MJA
10 years ago

I think the world would be better off without the police, sheriffs, highway patrols, guns, tassers, check-points, radar, speed traps, fines, jails, laws, rules, sirens, flashing lights, courts, traffic schools, etc.. =

Dingo
Dingo
10 years ago
Reply to  MJA

MJA, dude, I hope your kidding because you sound like Rosie O’Donnell

Steve
Steve
10 years ago
Reply to  MJA

You wouldn’t survive one week,

Wayne Deja
Wayne Deja
10 years ago
Reply to  MJA

Pedro…..Maybe you should get together with that guy in Mammoth that claims MX races up there would bring in millions of $$$ per week-end with their events….together,in a short while,you both would be multi-millionaires and maybe rule the World!!

El Local Loco
El Local Loco
10 years ago

@K. Gregg It was a clear case of profiling people going to Burning Man. These people that don’t think the Eastern Sierra needs your money are fools. You are smart not to drive 395 for awhile. Let these over zealous cops target the very locals that are telling you see… Read more »

sean
sean
10 years ago
Reply to  El Local Loco

There is a difference between “profiling” and “racial profiling”. There is nothing wrong with “profiling”. Thats what cops do to catch crooks. “Profiling” on things other than race is not against any laws. You are profiled everywhere you go from a sporting event, to an airport, or even a bar… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  sean

Not hard to move a needle pegged on empty.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  sean

Dude, they probably bought the stuff here. You sure seem knowledgable about the market…. Focus on local enforcement and education would keep us much safer. But what cop wants to admit his family or coworkers have a problem?

Sean
Sean
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

Pedro – As in from Napoleon Dynamite? Because you make about as much sense as he did.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Does not make sense to focus limited resources on local treatment, education, and enforcement on a day to day basis? That police officers can hesitate to arrest or confront people they know? That there are a lot more drugs in our community than just those passing through? Sean, admitting you… Read more »

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

I knew being obsessed with this thread would pay off. I set up a shop friendly to Burners in Bishop and Gardnerville have local hospital set up amnesty drug disposal and outreach in the parking lot. Get $20 sales x 12,000 x 2 days = $480,000 in sales for maybe… Read more »

Local Resident
Local Resident
10 years ago

Many Mono County residents are unhappy with the way drivers on 395 were treated by local law enforcement in the recent weeks. This “police state” approach may reflect the desire of some residents. However, I can assure you that there are many local residents who are both disgusted and disturbed… Read more »

Sean
Sean
10 years ago

OMG. What are we going to do without his $5 in snack revenue? This guy probably sits in traffic for an hour every day any time he goes on to the 405 freeway in LA Yet he’s complaining about being stopped for 60 seconds in Bridgeport. I know for a… Read more »

dean
dean
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

10x more checkpoints for 100x more people is 1/10th the rate per population…

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Uh…there hasn’t been a East Germany for 23 yrs.

Dean
Dean
10 years ago

Apparently the memo that Law Enforcement in the Sierra generates revenue through tourists and highly values drug interdiction is still getting to Southern California. I’d have thought they would have it figured out by now.

Pedro
Pedro
10 years ago
Reply to  Dean

Heck, there was a checkpoint just south of bishop a short while ago by Dept. of Fish and Game, good thing they weren’t carrying a fishing pole. What next, State Tax Board checking to see if I paid them use tax on the tire I replaced out of state?

Mark
Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  Pedro

Which reminds me the recent TV show “Wild Justice” had DFW officers spying on ice fisherman at Virgina lakes, following them to their condo in Mammoth, staking out the condo while other DFW officers followed them up to the lakes basin. All to cite them for over limits. Amazing amount… Read more »

Augustino
Augustino
10 years ago

See ya!

upthecreek
upthecreek
10 years ago
Reply to  Augustino

@ k gregg Welcome to the new world of govt gone wild. The police state is here to stay. They need the over time to pump up their public pension ponzi scam pay rates In the name of public safety they can all retire at 55 with 150k plus for… Read more »

Mark W
Mark W
10 years ago
Reply to  upthecreek

You better get a job with a pension since the rhetoric blogging field is swamped and your not very good at it, unless it was congressmen manning that checkpoint.

gwen
gwen
10 years ago
Reply to  upthecreek

Up the creek.

FYI, overtime is not used to calculate pensions. Obviously you do not know the facts. Also it is employees how contribute to their pension and not the public.