Photo by Charles James
The California Department of Fish and Wildlife held an angler and hunter checkpoint again this year, taking place Monday south of Bishop at the truck scales.
CDFW officers stopped vehicles southbound on US Highway 395 and asked if they’d been fishing or hunting. Those that had were asked to show their catches to officers.
CDFW Public Information Officer Andrew Hughan talked to Sierra Wave Media about the
checkpoint.
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Happy Cinco De Drinko lets get drunk and have a costume party!
benett,i disagree with you as usueal,lets agree to disagree
its illegal to be an illegal,lets quit being so friggin liberal and have an opinion,if you don’t like Hispanics,its probably drawn from a observation or personal experience,its o.k. to have a personal opinion or view on situations,as a legal citizen, I enjoy these rights,my family has fought for them.the easy and popular thing to do now is to take the soft and flowery side of every single thing that comes along.free cell phones for everyone
Intelligent consideration of issues does not equal “soft and flowery”. Benett Kessler
Yes, it is “illegal to be an illegal”. But why is the derogatory term “illegal” only used when referring to undocumented immigrants and not used when referring to those who knowingly hire them illegally? Aren’t employers who hire undocumented workers “illegals” as well? Aren’t we just being “soft and flowery” towards our business folks by not calling them illegals too?
Charles,
You’ve hit the bullseye. The reason “illegals” come to the U.S. is to work — mostly. If those that hired illegals were the target for enforcement and given harsh penalties for doing so, they would at least reduce the number of illegals they hire and the reason for illegals to come to the U.S. would diminish.
But the reason we have a lax immigration system is because the big corporations want cheap labor. And that desire works it’s way through the lobby system to the Congress who continues to do nothing but make bold pronouncements.
The House is supposedly working on an immigration reform bill. Don’t expect much….
Ken…..ANOTHER reason “illegals” come…and stay… in the United States is because they are WILLING to work the jobs so many here in the U.S. either feel they’re too good to do,to lazy to do,or thinking they’re not getting paid enough to do…..If all the “illegals” left,lots of people would better learn how to cook and clean and do their own yardwork and landscaping,and on a bigger scale,pick their own fruit and vegetables to put on their tables….all the while wanting and demanding $17.00 an hour in order to do those jobs that they do for much less in order to feed their families and make a decent living.
Wayne: First off, the unskilled low wage workers are not earning a decent living. A person working for the minimum wage in California is making about $16,000 a year for a 40 hour week before taxes. And most employers will keep low wage workers below 30 hours a week to avoid health care. So many people work 2 and 3 jobs.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/14poverty.cfm
Would you work for $8 an hour? White Americans used to do all those jobs you described as jobs “they” will do. I used to do those jobs myself when I was younger. You could make enough money to live ok. My first real job was washing dishes in a Bar-B-Q place. Good food. I was happy doing that because I could pay rent and buy gas. Not now.
So yes, the employers who exploit the unskilled worker now would have to pay more per hour. And maybe young Americans would re-enter the work force to do those jobs. If there were fewer jobs for the unskilled, maybe there would be fewer unskilled.
Why is that a bad thing? Whose side are you on? This is a complicated problem and there’s no easy solution that can be posted in a blog post.
Wow! This topic kinda birdwalked.
Do you feel the same way about DUI checkpoints?
I have no problem with DUI checkpoints my only complaint is they should use the opportunity to round up the illegals an deport them. It’s not my problem their Country is so bad they want to come here illegally. My friend just got her citizenship a few weeks ago, she did it the current legal way and it took about six months.
She is from Germany. What makes it so tough for the Hispanics not to follow the same path?
I don’t know, but I do know several Hispanics and two Russians who have had a helluva time. Our immigration law is tough to navigate and expensive. “Illegals” are people and deserve consideration. I know one case in particular where INS came to Inyo County and deported a man and his wife, both of whom had tried for a number of years to get legal and spent thousands in court. They were productive, fine citizens in their behavior. It was a sad day when INS made the man get down on his knees with a gun at his back. I understand your concern about laws but they have to be doable and human situations need to be considered. You sound like you might have an issue with “Hispanics”. Benett Kessler
I’m married to a Hispanic women who also immigrated here legally. And yes we both have issues with those that have no plans to follow the current path to legal immigration. Those that come here and demand citizenship without even attempting the legal avenue should be deported. Perhaps the Hispanics and two Russians you know have legal issues preventing them from becoming citizens in this country?
The Russians finally did. The Hispanic couple have remained deported. BK
It’s probably a disadvantage to be an illegal alien when applying for a residence permit. If your friends were deported, maybe they shouldn’t have come here illegally.
Illegals by definition are breaking the law of the land. And they are not citizens until they are naturalized or given resident status. Until then, they are illegal aliens subject to deportation.
The U.S. has the most lax immigration policy of any developed country in the World. There’s 11 million illegal aliens living in the U.S. Isn’t that enough?
The question is what to do about this. If there were the political will, a workable system could be put in place. I’m suggesting hate and self-righteousness are not good methods. As for my friends, they tried for ten years to get legal status and spent thousands of dollars going to court. There must be a better way. Benett Kessler
“I’m suggesting hate and self-righteousness are not good methods. — BK”
A person who is breaking the law is not a hate crime victim when he is caught and is subject to the consequences of his actions. And observing simple fact is not self-righteousness.
I guess I didn’t express myself very well. What I mean is it’s not enough to say they broke the law. The overwhelming 11 million illegals screams out that a solution other than a border wall and a law is needed. BK
Benett,
There are 8 billion people on this planet. 3 billion of them don’t even have clean water to drink. There’s probably more than 11 million illegal aliens in the U.S. What if we had 100 million? 100 million immigrants and refugees wouldn’t even dent the real needs of billions of people.
Would the U.S. still be the attractive haven that draws immigrants from all over the World if we opened our borders?
The U.S. is a finite and fragile system that can be broken and made unlivable for anybody. There has to be limits or nobody benefits.
We are approaching those limits. That’s demonstrated by the constant downward pressure on wages for the nearly non-existent middle class. The over crowding of schools. The strained medical and health care systems. The social services always struggling for enough money to provide care for the needy and yes, the mentally unstable.
Our society can’t be entirely a service based economy. It can’t be a free for all, everybody welcome state. The analogy is a ferry boat. Every thing is ok as long as the ferry is not overloaded. Everything is fine until the ferry capsizes.
Controlled, structured immigration can work for the betterment of the society as a whole if we encourage educated, thoughtful people to come here and become American citizens. Allowing a flood of uneducated, unskilled people who want to bring their country here — regardless of how nice they are — will only sink the ferry.
It’s a harsh reality. The U.S. simply cannot take all comers. This is not racial discrimination. It is a practical discrimination.
How to achieve structure and order? Some people will be excluded. It’s not me. It’s the reality of the circumstances.
We don’t have 100 million immigrants. You made my point which is we need effective immigration law which we currently do not have. Congress has failed to move forward with reform. No one is denying the need for law. I’m suggesting we consider the reality of what is happening to find a better way including working with Mexico. Benett Kessler
RAM, and it wasn’t the Natives problem that the King and the terrible situations overseas drove all the Europeans over here, Your immigration logic is as right winger as it gets… I recommend “Border Town” it’s a new documentary series on AL Jazeera America that goes into dept with 6 different perspectives being put to the challenge..
Oops it’s “Borderland” Check the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsy6W8rxeK4
I’m well aware I’m a right winger 😉 Thanks for the link. Boarder Town looks interesting I’ll be sure to check it out.
AL Jazeera, America’s most trusted news source (sic)
Al Jazeera is, in fact, a superior news source.
Fox, on the other hand, isn’t even news…
This is for Steve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera
The original Al Jazeera channel’s willingness to broadcast dissenting views, for example on call-in shows, created controversies in the Arab States of the Persian Gulf. The station gained worldwide attention following the outbreak of war in Afghanistan, when it was the only channel to cover the war live, from its office there.[10]
In the 2000s, the network was praised by the Index on Censorship for circumventing censorship and contributing to the free exchange of information in the Arab world, and by the Webby Awards, who nominated it as one of the five best news web sites, along with BBC News, National Geographic and The Smoking Gun. It was also voted by Brandchannel readers as the fifth most influential global brand behind Apple, Google, Ikea and Starbucks. In 2011, Salon.com said Al Jazeera’s coverage of the 2011 Egyptian protests was superior to that of the American news media. Hillary Clinton stated that the US was losing the information war as “Al Jazeera has been the leader in that [they] are literally changing people’s minds and attitudes. And like it or hate it, it is really effective,” she said.
John, no I don’t feel the same way about DUI check points. At least DUI check points crap all over our civil rights in the name of public safety. Fish and Game is just doing it because they can get away with it. Hope I answered your question.
There are other legal ways to cut back on drunk drivers and poachers.
Trouble….One way to “cut back” on DUI drivers,as you say to “keep it legal”….in your eyes….is to prosecute them AFTER they kill someone.
Im glad they call this dude a public info officier, because he sure does little for public relations. Pulling law obeying tourist over in search of a rare few bad apples is simply wrong! don’t care how you spin it!
It sounds weak minded and unconstitutional to me, and a lack of trust in common fisherman! whats next? background checks for overpriced fishing licsenses.
My Crowley Lake fishing buddies use to tell me if you’re not cheating you’re not trying 😉
RAM……Then,you and your “fishing buddies” are the reason they have to have these check-points…..
Really? How is a road block South of Bishop going to catch me cheating when I drive a mile to Crowley lake and I always catch and release?
I refuse to give them the satisfaction so I have quite fishing in California.
When the hunter becomes the hunted! !why don’t they try handing out fliers before they go fishing? ever try to read the regulations?It takes an hour to figure out each area.
What happened to Saturday and Sunday checkpoints?. Maybe a random day and afternoon one Friday would due better? A dozen wardens and 60 mornings with 60 citations, not counting the checkpoint. Sure does not sound like any proactive, productive planning on the DF&G’s part, nor cost efficient. Perhaps the planning of an organized officers spreading out and going to different areas as teams is to difficult to accomplish or maybe walking a lake or stream while your partner focuses his spotting scope ahead of you. Basic enforcement tactics must not be valid anymore. Underpaid, overworked, not respected, join the club.