LADWP also being asked to open Crowley Lake to fishing
UPDATE 12:45pm : FISHING WILL OPEN IN MONO COUNTY ON SATURDAY 5-23.
Deb Murphy filed this report:
Mono County Supervisors voted, 3-2, to request its fishing season start today, May 22. The motion took two tries and four plus hours of discussion.
Mono is not alone. In early April, Mono, Inyo and Alpine counties requested the California Department of Fish and Wildlife push the opener to June 1, due to state and federal Coronavirus restrictions. The department agreed.
Since then, Alpine requested and got an okay from Charlton Bonham, director of the CDF&W’s Natural Resources Agency, for a May 15 opener. Inyo County’s Board of Supervisors has an agenda item to discuss an opener prior to June 1 at its May 26 meeting.
Inyo and Humboldt Toiyabe national forests and Bureau of Land Management are preparing for Governor Gavin Newsom’s Stage 3 allowing campgrounds to open. Currently, short term rentals are only open for specific, essential lodgers.
That was the bone of contention during the Mono Supervisors’ discussion. Where would out-of-towners, in defiance of the stay-at-home order, stay?
There was a strong push by Supervisors to petition for a May 22 opener primarily so local residents could get out of their homes and fish.
[The Mono County Board of Supervisors sent the following letter to Director Charlton H. Bonham at the Department of Fish and Wildlife on Thursday, May 21, asking “to move forward with the opening of the fishing season” effective Friday, May 22]
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Three days fishing
3 bag limits
3 other fisherman seen
Gotta be honest… Not sure what y’all are concerned about
Hi Mason; nice effort at satire. If it were truly their own privately-owned backyard, and they alone paid for the state agency employees, planted fish, and game warden supervision, I would agree–let them keep it to themselves without an influx of outsiders. But that isn’t the case. You and your neighbors and also people living in southern California ALL pay for the salaries of state employees, for game wardens to patrol, and for trout to be planted. I’m just saying that since we are all taxpayers and we are all in this together, let’s all toss our lines into the lake at the same time.
I completely agree Tom. How dare locals believe they have the right to use their own backyard and natural resources without a major influx of people. It’s awfully similar to some counties opening their beaches for personally pleasure. It is completely absurd and unfair to tourist who choose to live in a different area.
Thomass, (and Doon)
Look Charles has to give you the official line. The reality is we get a private secret fishing season every year. This year was delayed because we had to replace the secret handshake with a responsible alternative. After much debate it came down to hacky sack or elbow bump. Now you have a 50% chance!
Na, just pulling your leg. It’s really retina scanning and electrotelepathic brain wave radio monitoring. The fishing is fun, but the access to the underground facility built under Crowley Lake is what’s its really about. That’s where we all received the vaccine in 2018. Oh, and there’s access to an underground bullet train to the secret stadium under Dodger Stadium. After fishing we get to see MLB games.
First you go from saying you pay state taxes, then on to say Mono County Supervisors are deaf to the needs of Los Angeles County. Before I start telling you what I really think about Eastern Sierra relations with Los Angeles City, and County. (Count to 105 years, Pedro, breathe) …..
Sorry your right to hunt farm bred fish in a small part of the state has been Infringed. How about you take your fight to your supervisors, and to the state? If you can’t get outside in L.A county, your pretty lame outdoorsperson in my opinion.
IS YOUR COUNTY OPEN?
Love,
Paydrow
Seems to me that this was not thought out. Even for locals, where do they find restrooms when campgrounds and restrooms are closed??
You ever hear of a bush?
You can be arrested for public urination under both state and local laws in California.
California state statutes do not expressly prohibit public urination, except in public transportation (California Penal Code section 640). But public urination may be considered disorderly conduct (California Penal Code section 647) or creating a public nuisance (California Penal Code sections 370 and 372).
Usually, people are arrested not just for public urination but for other disruptive behavior in public (often involving intoxication).
People can be charged with the more serious crime of indecent exposure (California Penal Code section 314), a misdemeanor.
Many city and county ordinances classify public urination as an offense. A typical ordinance might prohibit urination “on any street, sidewalk, alley, plaza, park, beach public building or public facility, or any place open to the public or exposed to public view.” An ordinance with this kind of wording prohibits urination even on private property, if it’s visible from a public place.
Same goes for defecation (that would be “pooping” in your vernacular)
I love it, California has released how many real criminals from prison and you want to fill them to incarcerate someone for pissing/defecating in public, not sure but after reading the news most all of the cities in California allow that and more.
Come on Inyo/Mono counties, let’s keep up with the neighbors.
This doesn’t have anything to do with what I want, this is California penal code, not Inyo / Mono counties specific.
Have you ever heard of a bush?
The Mono County Supervisors well know that Los Angeles is still under the equivalent of house arrest conditions, with non-essential travel prohibited, at least until June 1. So opening a week earlier does indeed give their local constituents a private early season. But aren’t “we all in this together,” as is often being said? All taxpayers, local or out-of-area, should toss their lines in the water at the same time.
This is a pretty short notice to change fishing regs… almost seems like more of a political stunt to draw more visitors than a legitimate request to a state agency.
What happened to Mammoth Hospital being ‘nearly full?’ Isn’t there a on-going COIVD outbreak in Mammoth? It almost sounds like the supervisors are forgetting who elected them.
Mammoth Hospital has no Covid patients, and hasn’t for more than a month. Initially there was great concern that it could be overwhelmed, but thankfully, that didn’t materialize.
Hasn’t materialized yet thankfully. Let’s check back in 2-3 weeks and see how the hospitals are doing, how full they are, and how many patients they had to fly out to other hospitals after this abrupt and chaotic “opening”.
Fear mongering don’t you think?
Deplorable dont you think “*”(edit SW- Please, no emoticons)
Yup. Same fear mongering that resulted in restrictions and penalties for smoking in restaurants and bars and smoking on planes, speed limits, wearing seat belts, the dental hygienist wearing gloves and masks you get your teeth cleaned, not yelling “fire” in a theater, not calling in a bomb threat to get out of your college calculus exam, and so on. It’s called PUBLIC HEALTH. And as much as you whine about a delay in your fishing, you have a responsibility to your community and those through which you move. Grow the eff up.
I dont think you understand the reason this all happened. Our hospitals are not huge and right next to other big hospitals. We have very few beds and ventilators. Even though some money hungry supervisors feel the need to go full tilt wide open, not all of us agree on that. We need a thought out process.
I suggest you mitigate.If you’re afraid of the Covid virus I suggest you stay home and away from people. You being afraid.., it’s not my problem or anyone else’s.The world doesn’t stop when you’re afraid, the rest of us want to live life. Thank you.
so, we can assume that you don’t or won’t wear a mask, nor, respect another person’s request for space ?
The answer to that is I’m on a lake in to the left to the right of me there’s no one but 50 yards maybe 100 yards and I have to wear a mask? Why? Because you want me to. I don’t think so. Again, the high Sierras and everywhere in the United States belong to the American people. It seems like quite a few of you up there or hiding behind “ our hospital is small, and little op end excuses. If you’re so deathly afraid of the virus I suggest you stay home shut the door and never come out. That way you’ll be 101% good to go.
Didn’t think so.
I agree with you actually, you don’t need to wear a mask when you’re out fishing. But, please do so if you need to come into the grocery store, or go to get a coffee at the coffee shop, and certainly you will be required to wear one if you need medical care.
And here we have A Lopez,I’m betting an out of towner ,and one of those that thinks he can tell people living here in Inyo and Mono counties what we should do to “stay safe”,and going as far as to tell us to “stay home” if we don’t like and agree with him.
And I’m betting soon one to gripe and complain if he doesn’t “limit out” in 10 minutes,and if he happens to try to access his boat on waters that are only allowing shore fishing.
Followed by how he’ll “stock up” on his supplies before coming to the Sierra,since “we all treated him and the other tourists so rudely”,denying him of his planned April 25th opener plans he might’ve had.
Now I could be wrong,just maybe he is a local,and one of those in denial,thinking and hearing “the chosen one” saying the coronavirus is nothing more than a “hoax”,and just another attempted “deep state” take-over,not a real threat or concern at all for the “brave ” ones ,and how his Constitutional rights have been denied to him…
YOU and your type,the way you talk and I bet the way you act when your out in our counties up here are a big reason and a perfect example why so many of the Inyo and Mono locals look down at some of the tourists and their actions while up here,thinking THEY are the ones calling the shots and doing what they please because they “show us the money”.
Well,you know what they say
Come on up here.
Show us the money
Now go home.
Hey goodbye I’m coming anyway I pay my taxes and have just as much right as you, this virus is fake and a political scam you fucking idiot. And I will not wear a mask this is not China you *******(edit SW) idiot.
Please wear a mask if you intend to use any facilities or businesses or medical needs. Your taxes don’t support our grocery stores, our coffee shops, our gas stations, and you don’t have a right to healthcare. You WILL wear a mask if you plan to enter any of those places. And if you plan to camp, note the following. It is dated 2014 and has NOT been rescinded.
https://monosheriff.org/sites/default/files/fileattachments/sheriff_-_coroner/page/5277/2014_blm_fs_fr_news.pdf
Enjoy your stay.
Alot of us locals dont care what you think and feel. Our safety and well being is way more important than your pleasure.
You don’t own the high Sierras it belongs to the American people. Get over yourself!
You seem to have anger issues. Do you have kids?
Were all going to die to will die if we don’t get an opportunity fish? Please decide. This will leave a stain that won’t be easily forgiven. Screw you and your not paying your share SOB’s. Good luck on not going broke and also controlling near by national forest lands. Utah only adds another 3 hrs.
Opening for locals only is really a low class thing to do . To tell the rest of the world that only locals can use the lakes is about as low as anyone could go. We spent thousands of dollars to attend the opening day renting lodging and looking forward to relaxing there. My family has been coming here since the 30’s. It’s one of the few things our dad still enjoys. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am with all the so called locals feeling they are the privileged ones. This is discriminatory
Don, please note that this is NOT about “locals” asking for special favors in the Fish Opening driving the counties’ supervisors’ decisions.
There are people up here in both counties working really hard to both safeguard the health of local residents, as well as visitors we may have coming here. They, at the same time, want to see the economy get up and running again as soon as possible. They will not always make “Solomon-like” decisions. The pressure on these officials is enormous: Potentially saving lives, while balancing and trying to save the economy at the same time.
Give us “locals” some credit. We’re no different than you just because we happen to live here.
We welcome and value your visits, along with everyone else who loves the Eastern Sierra.
“Opening up with a systematic and well planned strategy” is essential. Any opening should be a regional consideration/decision done in a cooperative manner including Inyo County, The Inyo National Forest , LADWP , City of Bishop, Town of Mammoth Lake . I am way beyond ready for some float tubing on Crowley but not ready for an covid outbreak hot spot in the Eastern Sierra.
We need to continue to move forward, this county exists because of tourism, stay at home recommendation or not people will be traveling and spending money. Southern Cal recreation areas are open, most of the western Sierra is open for fishing and camping. The tourists will be coming, let’s open fishing and camping areas, of course with CDC guidelines in place, social distancing, etc. Let’s show California we are adults and we can open with precautions, we do not need or desire the government to tell us about hygiene any longer. Open stage 3.
Most of the other states are moving forward and guess what, they are doing well. No walking dead, no huge spikes. Remember the more testing you do, the more positive cases you’ll see but who required hospitalization? Mono county hasn’t needed to hospitalize anyone in over a month.
This isn’t about a virus any longer. It’s about government control.
There are roughly 23 million people in Southern California. Many of those folks would love to come to the Eastern Sierra for a fishing getaway. To think that fishing will be open primarily for locals to get outside is just not realistic. And the fact that the sups requested this change for the Friday before Memorial Weekend indicates they clearly know this too.
Without campgrounds, lodging, restrooms, trash service, dining, etc, this sounds like a poorly planned move by the county. I’m all for opening up with a systematic and well planned strategy. But doing it haphazardly for the sake of one holiday weekend would be a mistake.
Sounds like politicians representing the local folks want a special, “private” fishing season for their constituents, before the Los Angeles hordes are allowed into the area. But those L.A. people support the CDFW and fish planting with their taxes just as much as the local area people do. Why should one special segment of the taxpayers get a private early fishing season before the opener for all others? Because they are local, this makes them entitled to special preferential treatment? Doesn’t seem equitable to me. Other taxpayers are also tired of being confined at home.
Thomas, I honestly don’t believe this has anything to do with providing locals with a “special ‘private’ fishing season.”
The supervisors up here are under considerable pressure in both Inyo and Mono counties to reopen businesses and open the fishing season for everyone, not just “locals” .The Mono County Supervisors’ vote was not a unanimous decision to make the request to the state to open things up immediately. The decision muddied the waters as Inyo County was taken somewhat by surprise at the action, which they were planning to take up next Tuesday.
No matter what these supervisors do, they are going to be criticized by someone or some group that will question their motivations regardless of how well-intentioned they may be. The primary motivation here appears not to be providing special attention or favor to any one group, but rather an attempt to please everyone…including our visitors from outside the area.