When the Mammoth Town Council meets Wednesday night, they will once more go into closed session to talk about Mammoth Lakes Land Acquisition and the more than $40 million debt against the Town. That session was set to take place at 5pm.
Earlier this month, Town and MLLA officials met for three days in Mammoth and began negotiations over how the Town will pay the big debt. Apparently both sides will come up with a plan and then take it to the public.
Wednesday night’s meeting goes public at 6pm. Under the consent agenda, the Council will review and accept the Mammoth Lakes Economic Forecast and Revitalization Strategies Report.
A public hearing comes up next with possible adoption of the Town of Mammoth Lakes Trail System Master Plan and EIR. Supporters of the trail system have said publicly that they expect approval by the Town Council.
Under policy matters, the Council may approve the draft scope of work for the Economic Development Program. The Council will also get a look at the Measure R fall award timeline as well as the Town’s own fall applications. And, the Council will also give direction on the prohibition of skateboards on Mammoth’s streets.
PMDoig……and maybe by doing that,it would be a good start to turn Mammoth Lakes back into what it used to be years ago………a nice,quiet little town in the mountains enjoyed by locals,and not a “hot spot” for Southern Californians…Don’t you got your own mountains down there?
As a skateboarder for the majority of my life I find it absurd to ban what many consider a primary mode of transportation, as well as a great tool for the youth to promote a sense of individuality and self-accomplishment. Furthermore, and I speak on behalf of a steadily growing… Read more »
@PMDoig – ….no worries on this stuff….check out the earlier post by the Chief: “Dan WatsonOctober 20, 2011 at 8:43 am# Steven and the other proponents of skateboarding in the streets can relax. The Council’s action last night was to simply discuss whether a prohibition was warranted. Good government should… Read more »
Kat- love the way you back up your beliefs with facts.
K- I live in mammoth and pay the same taxese you and Ken pay. All i’m trying to say is we the town employees are people too not just “STAFF”. My kids go to the same school your kids go to, I shop at the same vons you do, heck… Read more »
It’s no point jadie, you’ve been personally attack and singled out by these people who base their opinions on stereotypes and just go with the crowd. I tried to show them my passionate point of view the other week and they got aggitated because of opposition and started attacking members… Read more »
WOW you helped pay my salary??? when you come down from the clouds we will finish this conversation
jadie – Where exactly do you think the money comes from to pay town employees?
Ken, The point I was trying to make is that we are all in the same boat, I am born and raised in Mammoth (are you??). I have been working for the Town for ten years. and from where I work I have no contact with the airport, I have… Read more »
Jadie, If you re-read my comment, I said nothing that could be construed as a personal attack on city employees. I meant no personal disrespect for you or your job. I did not comment on your degree of commitment to the people of Mammoth Lakes. The length of time I’ve… Read more »
Someone should be asking how much MLTPA and the Mammoth Lakes Housing staff are getting paid, and maybe do a little trimming there before slashing the salaries of the hard working Town employees who are actually keeping this community up and running.
…and by the way — I’ve helped pay your salary for the last 10 years so have some respect. You have been willing to take the towns people’s money (my money) for 10 years and yet begrudge the need by the town to cut costs and pay a debt that… Read more »
Wow Ken, the pressure of a debate has forced you into personal attack, how do you work?
Ok Ken,… Before you start talking out of your rear end, do a little research
Ken people like you and the people that write the crap for the Sheet
when you come down from the clouds we will finish this conversation
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Who? Me?
All respect gone for you mate
Good to know people with short tempers who personally attack people are leading our town!
“Good government should have open, transparent policy discussions and that’s what happened.”
I’d call that a good start. Hope it continues.
Steven and the other proponents of skateboarding in the streets can relax. The Council’s action last night was to simply discuss whether a prohibition was warranted. Good government should have open, transparent policy discussions and that’s what happened. After comments from several people, the Council voted 5-0 to not prohibit… Read more »
I am not surprised – of course they didn’t take any action to try to change the behavior of the skateboarders – I couldn’t be at the meeting last night so will have to try and catch the reruns on TV – should be interesting to hear what the skateboards… Read more »
kat……Gotta ask a questions maybe you can respond to..just out of curiosity,due to the fact I VERY rarely travel the streets of Mammoth Lakes.Do you mean to tell me skateboarders are allowed to travel On the streets of Mammoth Lakes,in traffic,to where vehicles are forced to slow down as to… Read more »
Yes, skateboarders in Mammoth are allowed to go where ever they please with no limits…maybe the police would do something if they personally witnessed the reckless behavior of some skateboarders. I think the skateboarders know they won’t get caught and that no one will call the police so they just… Read more »
kat……..Your last sentence of your comment seems to be true….But I will tell you what….If someone held a large caliber pistol to my head,and told me I had to spend two weeks in Mammoth Lakes,if I were driving the streets and a reckless skateboarder were to dart out in front… Read more »
Dog parks are for dogs, skate parks are for skating. Out of 10 skateboarders riding on the sidewalk or street, maybe 2 will be considerate of others and not pose safety issues for other pedestrians, vehicles, or themselves. Unfortunately for the 2 considerate riders the rest of the apples cliche… Read more »
Can you justly categorize dogs and skateboarders together? Maybe this calls for a ban of scooters, or a ban of cycling. Do we now place the elderly and disabled in sanctioned parks where they can safely operate their powerchairs while wearing proper safety equipment, seeing as they do not always… Read more »
Scott…Maybe skateboarding is a professional sport,but there is a place for professional sports to take place…I have never seen a football game take place on a busy street,or a marathon being run to where vehicles have to be dodging the runners.As you state,maybe skateboarders are willing to accept the risks… Read more »
My truck is bigger then a skateboard. It’s doubtful I’ll end up under their skateboard.
As long as I’m not held responsible when I run them over business as usual is fine with me.
Thats the first real comment to make sense here. Maybe everyone should take a page from Rob’s book
I bet if we had the stats on how many accidents have occurred in Mammoth that were caused by skateboards, it would be really low. In the twenty five years I have called Mammoth my home, I have only heard of one. That is the recent tragic accident of the… Read more »
Steven – please see my comment above regarding stats on accidents. Also, the only thing “lame” about this situation is the reckless behavior on our town’s streets and bike paths by some members of the skateboarding community. Additionally, your “so what” attitude regarding this safety issues truly summarizes the perceived… Read more »
Kat, I respect your general comments on inappropriate behavior by some skateboarders, but statistically you are more likely to be injured or killed on a bike or walking. There are reasons for it of course: There are more cyclists and pedestrians than skateboarders; but on the other hand, cyclists and… Read more »
Charles – thumbs up on your comment – well said. I was never in favor of taking skateboarding off streets completely. However, they should never be allowed to ride in the middle of the road forcing cars behind them to avoid them. Also, skateboarding is never allowed on sidewalks in… Read more »
I defend, only a right. I believe the skate boarders have heard the call of reason and will pass it along.
There was another skateboarder death on Forest Trail a few years ago. Does it take a high body count before the danger is recognized and safety rules are applied?
Well I guess if your opinion about risks applies, we should all live inside a pillow with our own Self contained breathing apparatus to prevent us from the risks of: HIV AIDS FLU PNEUMONIA HEPATITIS EBOLA VIRUS MENINGACOCAL STRESS HIGH BLOOD-PRESSURE (from ALL the skaters that ravage our streets like… Read more »
Ok Ken, you say cut Town employees salary in half, I make $25,000 a year. Cut that in half and I will be below poverty level. 95% of the people that work for the Town are pay check to pay check blue collar workers. Before you start talking out of… Read more »
Well the money to pay for the town’s indiscretion has got to come from somewhere.
What do you suggest — bankruptcy? Liquidation of assets? Staff cuts? What?
Or do you expect the towns people to vote for yet another tax. Maybe Measure SB (Screwed Blue)?
Interesting reaction to my post. It’s almost like people don’t want to talk about real solutions…. 🙂
I wondered that myself.
It’s going to play out one way or another and I’ll be here to watch.
The Oxygen starved council wants to ban skateboards on the streets? I do not ride a skateboard, but a lot of people in town use their skate boards as their primary source of transportation to work and the store and such. Now they will have to buy a car and… Read more »
Mammoth Lakes has a great skateboard park and that is where skateboarders should ride and ride while wearing the proper protective equipment, helmet and pads. Many Mammoth skateboarders ride on Mammoth roads day and night wearing dark clothing, no protective equipment and making the roads unsafe for everyone. They have… Read more »
Harry….And when an accident does happen between vehicle and skateboarder,I wonder how,and who will file the NEW Mono County lawsuit….the skateboarder for getting hit by the vehicle?…Or will it be the driver of the vehicle against the skateboarder for being in the road and damaging their car?….Or will it be… Read more »
People drive cars without airbags, fly planes without parachutes and swim without life jackets . . . what’s the difference Harry? How many times have you run into a skateboarder with your car? Im gonna guess zero mate. Skateboarding is a professional sport just like football, swimming and marathon running.… Read more »
Yeah, the difference between skateboarding and professional football; swimming and marathon running is that they don’t do it in traffic. Not even marathon running. And runners and bike riders get hit by cars all the time while in bike lanes. Cars run into each other. Why do you think skateboarders… Read more »
All the time hey? I have never in my life in mammoth seen or heard of a car hitting a skateboarder. Ever. I dont know what evidence you base this upon, except for your passion for this motion to pass. All cases need evidence, and you have shown zero. Innocent… Read more »
Ken, im sorry but your arguement is rather light as Scott says. Like you say Scott, I believe Ken’s use of the term “all the time” is rather vague. Scott has a point, and until something extremely bad and serious arises, we can do nothing but let the skateboarders enjoy… Read more »
Becasue skateboarding has been around in Mammoth for decades and no serious or even record worthy examples of cars hitting a skateboarder has been established. Simple
I grew up and most of my favourite pastimes were playing baseball and gridiron in the street. Drive with caution and let the kids have fun is what i say. Im middle aged and i assume a lot of people commenting are the same, why dont we stop hating on… Read more »
Scott – and people without brains make illogical posts!
Harry lay off him just becasue he has a different point of view. Go live in a communist country if you cant except other peoples opinions. This is a discussion harry, not a trial
I agree with Harry that there are valid safety reasons for the town to seriously consider limiting skateboarders to the skateboard park. While driving, biking or walking – I would bet that many of us have experienced “close calls” with skateboarders riding out of control on the town’s streets, sidewalks… Read more »
So what! Mammoth has an awesome bike park too! Should we ban bikes from our roads now? They have singled out a specific group of people because of their particular life style. I cant wait to vote against these idiots.
I would like to delete the comment above. My new comment is as follows: I have just watched the latest council meeting that was aired on10-20-11 at 8:00 AM and it appears that the council has agreed to allow the skateboarders to continue to use town roads to navigate and… Read more »
Steven – I few comments from the town council will do completely nothing to change the skateboarders behavior – to wish otherwise is pie in the sky thinking. I think that those of us that experience first hand skateboarders riding recklessly should immediately dial 911 and report what we see… Read more »
It appears that you will vote for anyone who agrees with you idiot or not.
Steven – this issues is not about attacking a specific group of people or their lifestyle. It is a safety issue. The recent death of the skateboarder simply brought the issue of some skateboarders’ misconduct on our towns streets and bike paths to light. While there may not be recent… Read more »
After all of this debate and hot topics, my little nephew has decided to begin skateboarding. After watching him, i have thought about my opinions and believe i have been to harsh on skateboarders in the township of Mammoth. Maybe we are looking to much into the issue, and let… Read more »
Why would you vote out the idiots? They agreed with you!
What is this closed session stuff?
Aren’t we still a democracy?
no the police get away with a lot the few who are ok, just gets thrown away.
One small contribution to paying off MLLA would be for all city government officials to cut their pay to 0. No more money for the City Council — why should we pay them given the debt they have accrued? Town employee’s should also contribute by suffering a wage cut. Cut… Read more »
“the Council will also give direction on the prohibition of skateboards on Mammoth’s streets”
The police state is here..
When will they ban skis on MM???
Closed sessions are never a good idea…
maybe “we the people” should have a closed session on RECALLS
Bankruptcy today, tomorrow, and everyday after that. Take a good, long and hard look sheepeople. We’re about to be sold down the river just like the water rights that were whored out so many years ago. The only motive to settle here is to protect their investments and so a… Read more »